captain Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Am I right in thinking that the changes to the laws of the game has meant there has been an increase in the number of goals scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Him conceding more goals than our other keepers doesnt really mean anything in terms of talent ability and importance. Must admit i am suprised by the stat though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 On 19/03/2024 at 18:16, Hornso said: Well for the record: Emi - 150 appearances, 1.23 Conceded Per Game Schmeichel - 36 apps, 1.22 Sorensen - 158 apps, 1.22 Enckelman - 67 apps, 1.09 James - 84 apps, 0.99 Bosnich - 227 apps, 0.94 Spink would be in there too, but I don't have his pre-1992 stats. Since then he was 71 apps, 1.06. Scoring is up the past few years... Emi has been here since 2020-21. That year, average goals per game was 2.69, in the typical range for the PL era. But the last three years in a row have set PL-era records. From a previous record of 2.80 in 2011-12, the last three years have been 2.81, 2.82, and this year so far, a record-obliterating 3.24 (highest since 1952-53 in the old league). That helps explain the difference from Bosnich. Not to mention that Bosnich had Paul McGrath in front of him most of his time here. And, while it's not a fair comparison because goalkeepers weren't expected to do such things back then, none of the other candidates have Emi's sweeper-keeper and passing-in-back abilities. Bosnich was good, but I'd still take Emi any day of the week. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I dont think the stat was meant to reflect badly on Emi. Showing he's up there with our best shot stoppers in respect of one stat, and just a bit of general trivia. We all know he's probably better than nearly all of them for most attributes, although could never prove it. For one on one's I'd not rather have any other keeper in our history, including Schmeichel. For general shot stopping him and Schmeichel probably not much in it. Penalties I'd say him and Bosnich probably not much in it. Then you have his ability on the ball which we've never needed to see from our other keepers, although I imagine Schmeichel would have been more than competent at that if needed. I'd say command of the area on crosses is the one area he could be beaten on by a couple of our past keepers, but overall I wouldn't have anyone else from my knowledge of our history over him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 9 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said: Him conceding more goals than our other keepers doesnt really mean anything in terms of talent ability and importance. Must admit i am suprised by the stat though. We have always been a defensive counter attacking team. This impacted us at both ends of the pitch. Low risk/low reward football. We didn’t score many but we conceded even fewer. We are much more attacking these days. We score loads but also concede many chances to the opposition. We can only really afford to do this because Emi is so amazing. We trust him to get us out of trouble time and again. Obviously, he is also going to concede more as a result of the number of chances we give up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) I think that's similar to people that don't think he deserved the Golden Glove award at the World cup as he let more goals in than goalkeeper xxx whereas anyone watching the games , would know he was essentially the MAIN reason Argentina won the world cup Edited March 21 by tonyh29 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 13 hours ago, TomC said: Scoring is up the past few years... Emi has been here since 2020-21. That year, average goals per game was 2.69, in the typical range for the PL era. But the last three years in a row have set PL-era records. From a previous record of 2.80 in 2011-12, the last three years have been 2.81, 2.82, and this year so far, a record-obliterating 3.24 (highest since 1952-53 in the old league). That helps explain the difference from Bosnich. Not to mention that Bosnich had Paul McGrath in front of him most of his time here. And, while it's not a fair comparison because goalkeepers weren't expected to do such things back then, none of the other candidates have Emi's sweeper-keeper and passing-in-back abilities. Bosnich was good, but I'd still take Emi any day of the week. I can't imagine Bosnich playing it out from the back, that would be really bad for the health of those Villa fans of a nervous disposition. I agree with you on this one. Bosnich was a great shot stopper and commanded his area and dealt with crosses into the box pretty well, but Emi is the far superior all round goalkeeper in my opinion and dare I say it the best goalkeeper for Villa over the last 40 years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted March 23 VT Supporter Share Posted March 23 Another clean sheet for Emi last night in a 3-0 win over El Salvador. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 23 VT Supporter Share Posted March 23 On 03/03/2024 at 18:57, Tom13 said: Schmeichel wasn't the best in the world by the time he signed for us surely? Schmeichel was crap for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Always knew Enckleman was the GOAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 hours ago, S-Platt said: Another clean sheet for Emi last night in a 3-0 win over El Salvador. How he managed to keep *checks notes* Thai league superstar Nelson Bonilla from scoring is anyone's guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LondonLax Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 On 21/03/2024 at 00:21, TomC said: Scoring is up the past few years... Emi has been here since 2020-21. That year, average goals per game was 2.69, in the typical range for the PL era. But the last three years in a row have set PL-era records. From a previous record of 2.80 in 2011-12, the last three years have been 2.81, 2.82, and this year so far, a record-obliterating 3.24 (highest since 1952-53 in the old league). That helps explain the difference from Bosnich. Not to mention that Bosnich had Paul McGrath in front of him most of his time here. And, while it's not a fair comparison because goalkeepers weren't expected to do such things back then, none of the other candidates have Emi's sweeper-keeper and passing-in-back abilities. Bosnich was good, but I'd still take Emi any day of the week. Probably because we play about 10 mins more injury time this season each match. Would also possibly explain why every club is in injury crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Emi is way more exposed by the way we play. Bosnich was my favourite before but Emi is elite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jareth Posted March 30 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 30 Flippin huge save today from this guy 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post turvontour Posted March 30 Popular Post Share Posted March 30 I'm guilty of taking him for granted at times. His presence is increasingly so important. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 He's constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 2 hours ago, turvontour said: I'm guilty of taking him for granted at times. His presence is increasingly so important. It’s weird isn’t it, that Ait-Nouri chance I just thought “yep standard Emi” but there was nothing standard about it at all 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villan-scott Posted March 31 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 31 Nice milestone for Emi last night. Colossal for us. Love the bloke! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 8 hours ago, Adam2003 said: It’s weird isn’t it, that Ait-Nouri chance I just thought “yep standard Emi” but there was nothing standard about it at all Yeah we just expect it from him now. Id say he’s got us at least 10pts all season what we wouldn’t have got without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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