DCJonah Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 4 year contract is looking insane. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Probably as bad as hes played. Offered nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 FLOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Davkaus said: The loan excited me. I just couldn't see why we signed him permanently. Stuck with him on high wages now, the Gerrard legacy. Hopefully a new manager can get something out of him I'd completely forgotten about the fact hes permanent. Deary me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: 4 year contract is looking insane. It truly is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 10, 2022 Complete flop and it's pretty sad. If Gerrard was his only hope of finding form then this guy really has no hope. Though, I don't think he should be playing out on the left. Should be in the middle playing behind a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: 4 year contract is looking insane. I called this when we looked at signing him after getting Digne. The money those two are on, at their age, was crazy business. It was reminiscent of the crazy days at the end of Lerner's reign when we blew huge money on average players and got stuck with them. We need to be smarter than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Been rubbish ever since liverpool sold him at the right time, a signing we didn’t need with buendia in that position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eligius Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Nine games into the season and I'm still waiting for him to produce something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 He is finished as a Premier league player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 He was incredible when he first came. What the hell has happened?! I don't think he's lazy or downed tools, is it something to do with the players around him/the system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Hate to say it...but I said at the time we should not be signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, May-Z said: I don't think he's lazy or downed tools, is it something to do with the players around him/the system? Maybe, just maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 The blokes shite and has been since pretty much day 1. 3 good games in his spell here, he’s absolutely useless. Another experiment that needs to stop asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, May-Z said: He was incredible when he first came. What the hell has happened?! I don't think he's lazy or downed tools, is it something to do with the players around him/the system? The manager. I still have hope a change will do him as much good as anyone. I’ve worked for mates before who couldn’t do their job - when they left, I was sad to see them go but I got better at what I was doing. Edit: this is very much optimism in this case I admit! He may just be done… but his arrival suggested he still had something about him before we ground it out… Edited October 11, 2022 by Adam2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLVillan Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 I think the problems with Coutinho are two-fold: 1. Mental and 2. Positional. 1. I think he's mentally weak in terms of his own confidence levels. When he was his best at the Dippers, he was in a team that won most of the time, surrounded by other productive attackers. He had no pressure to perform so he was relaxed and produced magical moments. But when he's in a situation where his team is not performing and is low on confidence, he himself is affected by it. Gerrard has repeatedly said that he needs to feel "loved" and I'm sure he is, yet that seems to have had little-to-no effect on his performances. He looks sad to be honest. 2. It's well-documented that his struggles at Barcelona started almost immediately because he was not ever going to be playing as a central player while they had Messi (and Iniesta). Barcelona bought a number 10 and tried to turn him into a left-sided attacker. His best years were as a number 10 and his best season since leaving the Dippers was when he played in that role for a season on loan at Bayern. If he is ever going to recapture his old form he needs to be given a number 10 role. However with the weakness of the current Villa midfield we cannot afford to play with a number 10, hence why he's played on the left. Do I feel sorry for him? No. But I do feel he is utterly wasted in his current role. Unless there is a dramatic change to our system of play and personnel, we will never see the player he could be..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 4-2-3-1 or 3-5-2 with Coutinho in the old Tommy Johnson role . Otherwise the bench. I’m convinced that with Archer he’d be more effective though as would Buendia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 6 hours ago, Pissflaps said: Ok so I was wrong..he's had what 3 good games? We've made a huge mistake here. Did he get a major injury after leaving Liverpool or something? This isn't the player I remember. He is actually shit. Serious knee injury before we signed him. I'm actually interested to see him under a competent manager. He can still be dangerous in the right setup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted October 11, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 11, 2022 42 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Serious knee injury before we signed him. I'm actually interested to see him under a competent manager. He can still be dangerous in the right setup. Yes a failing team with poisonous culture (after things were so good too, criminal) is not the best way to get the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 6 hours ago, May-Z said: He was incredible when he first came. What the hell has happened?! I don't think he's lazy or downed tools, is it something to do with the players around him/the system? Very much a confidence player. He didn’t really function at Barcelona or Bayern because he was under pressure there. When he first came here, he didn’t feel pressure at first but it’s there again now. I doubt he’ll spend 4 years here, maybe he will just quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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