tomav84 Posted August 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2020 29 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I don't think he can get much worse than Samatta. You gotta have the b**** to give talents a chance. But if you never give them a chance you never know. Look at Greenwood, they may end up surprise you. well samatta scored 2 goals for us this season. that's 2 more than davis. 2 more than vassilev. that's who will be on our bench if we sell him, so i'd argue you can very easily get worse and man u played greenwood because they saw something in him in training. they saw him holding his own vs first team players and saw enough to give him a chance. it was well known that barry was training with the first team post lockdown (with mungo bridge and one or 2 others) and obviously was deemed not ready. so he's had a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, tomav84 said: well samatta scored 2 goals for us this season. that's 2 more than davis. 2 more than vassilev. that's who will be on our bench if we sell him, so i'd argue you can very easily get worse and man u played greenwood because they saw something in him in training. they saw him holding his own vs first team players and saw enough to give him a chance. it was well known that barry was training with the first team post lockdown (with mungo bridge and one or 2 others) and obviously was deemed not ready. so he's had a chance Samatta has played more minutes than Davis this season. Vassilev isn't a striker. Samatta was absolutely shocking post lockdown. How can you justify Baston getting on the bench ahead of Barry? Baston wasn't even trusted considering he got zero minutes so what is the point having him on the bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Samatta has played more minutes than Davis this season. Vassilev isn't a striker. Samatta was absolutely shocking post lockdown. How can you justify Baston getting on the bench ahead of Barry? Baston wasn't even trusted considering he got zero minutes so what is the point having him on the bench? i never justified baston. he's a stinker of a signing. we might as well have had one of the ladies on the bench as it was obvious that smith had no intention of bringing him on, so yes technically barry would've been better to have on the bench, but that's not to say he's good enough. we're going to need to agree to disagree on this. if you think that selling ally is a good decision then you're mad. fortunately i'm confident that our management have zero intention of doing so. we don't have a queue of world class forwards queuing up to sign for us. we're in for a tough old summer trying to recruit attacking players good enough for this league and i'll be amazed if we manage to sign the quality and quantity we need; we wont be making the task harder by flogging a first team striker. do i think we need better than him? yes. have i written him off though? no...let's leave it there 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 (edited) His hair cut, especially when he is as shit as he is, really pisses me off Edited August 19, 2020 by Nicho 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 19/08/2020 at 10:16, villalad21 said: Samatta has played more minutes than Davis this season. Vassilev isn't a striker. Samatta was absolutely shocking post lockdown. How can you justify Baston getting on the bench ahead of Barry? Baston wasn't even trusted considering he got zero minutes so what is the point having him on the bench? Ask Dean Smith and the other coaches. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 18 hours ago, Nicho said: His hair cut, especially when he is as shit as he is, really pisses me off Are you bald? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 19/08/2020 at 10:05, tomav84 said: well samatta scored 2 goals for us this season. that's 2 more than davis. 2 more than vassilev. that's who will be on our bench if we sell him, so i'd argue you can very easily get worse Vassilev isn't a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaVilla Posted August 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2020 18 hours ago, Nicho said: His hair cut, especially when he is as shit as he is, really pisses me off 11 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Are you bald? I think the correct question is: "Are you 12?" 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 On 18/08/2020 at 09:13, villalad21 said: He isn't good enough mate. He lacks fundamental abilities. With Luiz you always saw the talent. He was always technically good, he just wasn't showing consistency. I'm not seeing anything from Samatta suggesting he will improve. There's not much talent there In fairness, you didn't see much in Dean Smith to suggest he could get Villa promoted from the Championship, so it's possible perhaps you've rushed to judgment here. Players take a while to settle at a new club in a new league. One of Smith's strengths as a manager is he doesn't write players off - he always gives them a chance to prove themselves. I think Samatta will show some improvement. We also need to sign a better striker, but no reason to abandon all hope with Samatta just yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Scored today against Bristol City, their local reporter saying it finished 1-1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 We need another striker or two without a doubt, but I wouldn't write Samatta off either. He's shown flashes of what he is capable of, but the system we played after the lockdown really didn't favour a lone striker, we could have had 1990s Dean Saunders in that system and would still not have scored. Doesn't mean i think he is good, just withholding judgement, for now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I think he’ll get double figures for goals this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I think he'll improve this season as part of a squad including other fit strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAIN Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 calm down..a goal against bristol shitty does not turn samatta into the striker we need 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theboyangel Posted August 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, OLDVILLAIN said: calm down..a goal against bristol shitty does not turn samatta into the striker we need However, if it rebuilds his confidence so he can be an effective squad member then it’s a great thing to see. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tomaszk Posted August 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, OLDVILLAIN said: If samatta is named in the team to play sheffield utd this window will have been a total disaster.discuss 25 minutes ago, OLDVILLAIN said: calm down..a goal against bristol shitty does not turn samatta into the striker we need 23 minutes ago, OLDVILLAIN said: People losing their shit over samatta scoring a goal today..jesus its against bristol shitty..it doesnt mean that overnight samatta has become the answer to our prayers I think there's only one person losing their shit. 12 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted August 26, 2020 Author Share Posted August 26, 2020 I’m pleased Samatta has scored in a preseason friendly, it counts for nothing but will do him some good no doubt. Him scoring is good for Villa and takes nothing away from our search for a new striker. Sorry for stating the obvious but there you go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 (edited) I wouldn't put him on the scapheap already. He was poor post lockdown but with a decent pre season and another couple of strikers brought in I think he could be part of the match day squad for another season. He had clearly lost confidence was at least was still putting a shift in. I know that is a bare minimum for players who are paid thousands a week, but plenty don't. If we actually had someone who could consistently put in a decent cross into the box, he would look a lot better. Our best crosser of the ball is a journeyman full back who is often not even first choice. Edited August 27, 2020 by The Fun Factory 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 He scored again today in a friendly against Wycombe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 29, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2020 Just now, Farlz said: He scored again today in a friendly against Wycombe Header? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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