gwi1890 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, thunderball said: I think a season on a considered loan would bring him on leaps and bounds, certainly looks like greater exposure and first team experience would do him the world of good. He looks a real talent. Foden didn’t go out on loan and was introduced gradually, not saying Ramsey is on that level but who knows as we are now we need him as a squad player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: Foden didn’t go out on loan and was introduced gradually, not saying Ramsey is on that level but who knows as we are now we need him as a squad player I just cant see him playing ahead of any of our current midfielders, he is likely only to get substitution minutes so it would be good, given his youth, to go and play a full season of senior, competitive football. Man CIty play more games as they are in more competitions and generally in them longer than we are, and they have a much bigger squad. They can afford to bring on younger talent as they generally play at a higher standard meaning they have higher quality all over the pitch to compensate and cover for introduced talent. I would suggest that Jack played out of necessity when he was young, but even he was loaned out and it didnt do him any harm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, thunderball said: I just cant see him playing ahead of any of our current midfielders, he is likely only to get substitution minutes so it would be good, given his youth, to go and play a full season of senior, competitive football. Man CIty play more games as they are in more competitions and generally in them longer than we are, and they have a much bigger squad. They can afford to bring on younger talent as they generally play at a higher standard meaning they have higher quality all over the pitch to compensate and cover for introduced talent. I would suggest that Jack played out of necessity when he was young, but even he was loaned out and it didnt do him any harm. I’d play him instead of Barkley in certain games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 9 hours ago, Villa87 said: Coaching team must be really impressed with his progress and attitude to throw him into yesterday’s game with 20 minutes left. Exciting times!! Think Dean realised v West ham we were dead on our legs. Both subs yesterday - gave us running power. Back to JR - not seen anything to get me as excited as some. Still seems a bit intimadated by it all IMO. Hopefully he gets more than the odd 10 mins here and there to show what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Newry_Villan Posted February 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2021 He has signed a new four and a half year contract. Good that the club ties him down until 2025 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsworthlion Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Good News on the 4 year Deal.. he does need a run games though... and preferably this season.. and preferably with us.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I dont think he’s look fazed by anything. This season will do wonders for him. Our midfield is shaping up to be excellent next season; plenty of options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Haven't seen anything yet that's impressed me. I'd really like to. I know it's not his fault he's only had sub appearances so far. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted February 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, darrenm said: Haven't seen anything yet that's impressed me. I'd really like to. I know it's not his fault he's only had sub appearances so far. He's come off the bench for about 10 minutes a pop a number of times this season and being an inch away from scoring in about 3 of them. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 100 million percent theres a real footballer there. Dont know how i know because he hasnt really showed anything that brilliant yet but there is . You can just tell sometimes. Its in his eyes. No nerves . Just a blank expression that nothing phases him. Plus he is nicknamed Rambo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted February 9, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, darrenm said: Haven't seen anything yet that's impressed me. I'd really like to. I know it's not his fault he's only had sub appearances so far. Temperament? To come in and not be fazed at a young age is something that cannot be coached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 He has shown glimpses but we have had many young players from the past do that. With Grealish there were never any doubts in my mind he was going to be superstar. Just not sure yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 07/02/2021 at 18:37, hippo said: Back to JR - not seen anything to get me as excited as some. Still seems a bit intimadated by it all IMO. Granted he’s not played a lot but I get some of the hype. He’s not tearing it up but i don’t think he looks intimidated at all. if anything I think he’s putting his foot in and trying things. He’s quite lean so will be a strong lad after another season, looks like he has some skill and some bite and I he looks like he’s getting in position to score. Next time he comes on I’ll be betting on him next goal scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) He played the full 90 minutes against Wolves and did well against a tough opponent, not every youngster coming through is going to look like a world beater, but he's doing well enough and has been a little unlucky not to score on a few occassions. His assist against Bristol City for Traore's goal was very good as well. Having him come through will probably save us a lot of money in the transfer market. Also him getting game time and now being rewarded with a new contract is good for our other young players coming through, as it shows them that it's possible to make it with us if they do well, and gives them something to aim for. Edited February 9, 2021 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, handsworthlion said: Good News on the 4 year Deal.. he does need a run games though... and preferably this season.. and preferably with us.! I think we're using him perfectly. He's now trusted by DS to come on with 15 minutes left v likes of Chelsea and Arsenal and help us get the result we need and he's done that. Much easier to throw him on when we're 3 up v Palace or West Brom with no pressure but his development is already in advance of that. Of course we'd like him to start a few more games and I was surprised he didn't get in v Newcastle but perhaps DS looked at the Wolves game and there were aspects he was happy with so easier to get him used to the pace with 15-20 minute cameos. Edited February 9, 2021 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 On 07/02/2021 at 18:50, thunderball said: I just cant see him playing ahead of any of our current midfielders, he is likely only to get substitution minutes so it would be good, given his youth, to go and play a full season of senior, competitive football. Man CIty play more games as they are in more competitions and generally in them longer than we are, and they have a much bigger squad. They can afford to bring on younger talent as they generally play at a higher standard meaning they have higher quality all over the pitch to compensate and cover for introduced talent. I would suggest that Jack played out of necessity when he was young, but even he was loaned out and it didnt do him any harm. We've had this discussion on other threads / players Ultimately I think we have to trust the management that we've put in place to do what is best for him and us Yes he should play more football but at the same time he's training every day with grealish and Barkley under the nose of Smith, Shakespeare and Terry being moulded in to exactly the player we think he should be, also with the aid of our sports science team and fitness guys etc in our great training facility Would going on loan to Oldham really make him better? I think the idea of "men's football" and toughening up down in the lower leagues is overrated and not guaranteed to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Still kind of meh on the kid. Best praise I can give him is that he didn't look out of place but I'd be lying if I said I'd saw anything impressive yet. Think some people are giving too much credit on the couple of shots he's had. He didn't really take any of them that well to my memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Not looking out of place in the premier league as a teenager playing your first games at that level, and getting into goalscoring positions, is about as impressive as can be expected. Seems like some are putting him down because he doesn't already look like some wonder kid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I think we can safely say that he is very highly rated when they give him a 4.5 year deal. Its the time when many do not push on so its a very good sign they have given him a long contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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