mikeyp102 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Bizarre argument, it isnt Jordans fault if our manager picks him over some of our youth players for a bench spot, could be thathe does more in training, or any number of reasons, I honestly have no idea and nor do any of the rest of you. The loan will do Bowery good he needs games at his age and I hope he does well, like many others I see no real future for him at this club though. Loans can improve certain aspects of a players game but he doesnt look like ever having the technique to be a prem player. No one was saying it was his fault, that blame lay with the manager. As for games isn't he one of the more experienced players in the squad? He played many games prior to joining us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I agree with EA that he's hindered the development of others. Even by just having him on the bench he gets that experience of PL football which someone like Carruthers or Grealish could have had. I'm not really too fussed either way about Bowery as a signing though. I suppose he has played his part in certain games (West Ham/Stoke) with the effort he put in, however anyone with a similar fitness level could have done exactly the same. I'd be verrrrryyy surprised if he was here next year - and by 'here' I mean playing, I wouldn't be surprised if he was just training with the reserves as no one wanted him. Grealish and Carruthers will have developed more by being out on loan playing competitive football than they would have warming our bench. If having Bowery on the bench meant we had the squad to be able to send them on loan then he's helped, not hindered, their development. Was mainly referring to last year. And also Carruthers and Grealish were just examples of players from our youth setup. Please tell me how Bowery has helped the development of the likes of Robinson, Burke, Johnson, etc. Again, Burke and Johnson I think have both spent time out on loan. I'm not sure Robinson is ready for the first team yet so by not having to rush him in to make up numbers it may have been beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Sounds unhappy with his time here to be honest, probably best for all parties if he leaves in the Summer as I doubt he'll be getting much game time in the future He's nowhere near as unhappy with his time here as I am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I agree with EA that he's hindered the development of others. Even by just having him on the bench he gets that experience of PL football which someone like Carruthers or Grealish could have had. I'm not really too fussed either way about Bowery as a signing though. I suppose he has played his part in certain games (West Ham/Stoke) with the effort he put in, however anyone with a similar fitness level could have done exactly the same. I'd be verrrrryyy surprised if he was here next year - and by 'here' I mean playing, I wouldn't be surprised if he was just training with the reserves as no one wanted him. Grealish and Carruthers will have developed more by being out on loan playing competitive football than they would have warming our bench. If having Bowery on the bench meant we had the squad to be able to send them on loan then he's helped, not hindered, their development. Was mainly referring to last year. And also Carruthers and Grealish were just examples of players from our youth setup. Please tell me how Bowery has helped the development of the likes of Robinson, Burke, Johnson, etc. Again, Burke and Johnson I think have both spent time out on loan. I'm not sure Robinson is ready for the first team yet so by not having to rush him in to make up numbers it may have been beneficial. Both of which were one month long deals, and Johnson's was in October 2012. Oh and Bowery is ready for the first team? Never will be IMO, and I'm fairly certain you feel the same - just arguing for the sake of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andykeenan Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Not good enough for first team if Donny wanna keep him permanent they are more then welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 I think even the championship is beyond his level. I'd imagine he'll end up at a Port Vale or Walsall, how much longer is his contract here for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It's just a stupid signing, when you've got better youngsters at U21 and U18 level why spend £500k on a complete no hoper from league 2 ? The development of others was sacrificed for Bowery Name 4, then tell me why they've been held back by bowery. I'll even give you you a free pass to google the 4 players. However I'm looking forward to the indepth analysis that you have of those players and why they didn't make the first team because of Bowery. Stick this in your pipe and smoke it Fonz Carruthers Burke Drennan And you can have a free pass to google them as you probably won't know of them Carruthers is a midfielder and Burke is a wideman. as for Fonz didn't he start Lambert 1st home game and did **** all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 TBH, If we'd have signed Nakhi Wells I'd could have seen the logic, cos he knows where the net is, but Bowery's record is awful in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It was as bizarre a last minute gamble as signing Salifou from the Toblerone Swiss Division 4 (North). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 It was as bizarre a last minute gamble as signing Salifou from the Toblerone Swiss Division 4 (North). nothing will ever be that bizarre. by looks of it at least Bowery wont be here 4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 Actually the Bowery signing is more bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonoridge91 Posted March 15, 2014 Share Posted March 15, 2014 I don't think he is all that great but whenever he has played I don't think he has embarassed himself he just hasn't shown much quality. Look at some of Tonev or Bennett's performances in the past for example... Those guys have been really questionable at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biskitt Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Walking up to the ground today, I said to my mate that Bowery is going to score today. The equalizer wasn't quite what I had in mind though. Cracking cross for the 3rd goal, go and get one in the second half, champ ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanmac Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 (edited) Fair play he's been excellent today. Wont't change the fact that he isnt good enough but he has paid his fee and wages today with this performance. Edited May 3, 2014 by villanmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papillon Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Haha, saw that he was in the line-up and then he goes on to score an own-goal. He probably knows he hasn't got anything to do on this level, let alone the Championship, and then he puts it in the back of the net. The sooner he leaves the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepDish Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Haha, saw that he was in the line-up and then he goes on to score an own-goal. He probably knows he hasn't got anything to do on this level, let alone the Championship, and then he puts it in the back of the net. The sooner he leaves the better. What an odd comment, considering his performance today. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 I dint think you've been watching the game Pappilon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yayoboy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 The unlucky own goal aside, he's had a good game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 He looked good today, no question. He was definitely worth the cost of his transfer just for the cross for the 3rd goal. Really happy for the lad, especially after he was very unlucky to get the own goal. BUT it's probably still fair to say that he's got too much to prove - he hassled, harried, twisted and turned with great purpose, but he usually made the wrong decision with his shots - the two shots on target were both at the near post - and he could have played in other players on two occasions. Shouldn't be focusing on the negatives though - this was his best performance in a Villa shirt, and it came in the most important match of the season, so fair play, really happy for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Played very well today. Well done Jordan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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