Zatman Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hobbit Feet said: Although I wouldn’t Blame Jack, I can’t see him changing his mind again. And I’m not entirely sure how the Irish fans would feel about him playing for them now kinda being a second choice, would be interesting to hear any Irish fans opinion on it? I can’t imagine Roy Keane or James McClean giving him a warm welcome though... He isnt allowed to change back and Roy Keane isnt in the IReland setup anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hobbit Feet said: Although I wouldn’t Blame Jack, I can’t see him changing his mind again. And I’m not entirely sure how the Irish fans would feel about him playing for them now kinda being a second choice, would be interesting to hear any Irish fans opinion on it? I can’t imagine Roy Keane or James McClean giving him a warm welcome though... As an Irish fan I would welcome him back with open arms as will I'd imagine 90% of Irish fans. The other 10% will give out a be contrary at the start but they like all football fans have very short memories so once he produces he'll be accepted. Roy is gone now and wouldn't welcome anyone in any case and Jack will be taking James McClean's place. Problem sorted. 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: He isnt allowed to change back and Roy Keane isnt in the IReland setup anymore There are proposed rule changes which are due to be voted on later this year aren't there? Something about less than 3 caps and you can change although I have absolutely no idea of the detail of the proposed changes, and if you have already changed once what effect that has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) Southgate looks like he pulls himself off to trains the duller than sewerage, waistcoat rocket polisher, c**knosed spunk maggot. And he got lucky at the last World Cup. Edited August 26, 2020 by Morley_crosses_to_Withe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Southgate should be ashamed of himself, quite frankly. Imagine treating a player of Grealish's talent this way, particularly after the FA aggressively courted him and recruited him as a future England international from another country's U21 system. Regardless, we might have expected this from a waistcoat-wearing numpty who was so "desperate" to leave Villa to join the elite of English football that he went to the wilderness of Middlesbrough to win a League Cup. I have nightmare visions of Jack going to United or similar and being drafted into the England squad as quickly as possible afterwards. All the bullshit that will stream out of Southgate's mouth then about his undeniable quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 minute ago, est1874 said: Southgate should be ashamed of himself, quite frankly. Imagine treating a player of Grealish's talent this way, particularly after the FA aggressively courted him and recruited him as a future England international from another country's U21 system. Regardless, we might have expected this from a waistcoat-wearing numpty who was so "desperate" to leave Villa to join the elite of English football that he went to the wilderness of Middlesbrough to win a League Cup. I have nightmare visions of Jack going to United or similar and being drafted into the England squad as quickly as possible afterwards. All the bullshit that will stream out of Southgate's mouth then about his undeniable quality. Little, Gidman, Morley and Shaw. Seen it all before, they want them to move to get a game for England and it suits the FA's plan of looking after Man utd and making sure that place is happy before anything or anyone. words removed. England don't need Villa players, that's why we at International level win all the time and have done since the 1970's. Unbeatable. The midlands as a whole should boycott watching England until they do it properly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Designer1 Posted August 26, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2020 If I was in a room with Hitler, Bin Laden and Southgate and had a gun with two bullets , I'd shoot Southgate twice. 1 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Zatman said: He isnt allowed to change back and Roy Keane isnt in the IReland setup anymore That never stopped cascarino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wainy316 Posted August 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Designer1 said: If I was in a room with Hitler, Bin Laden and Southgate and had a gun with two bullets , I'd shoot Southgate twice. Probably the best option as the only other person alive in that room is you. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 3 hours ago, The_Steve said: Good to see more journalists question Southgate There's also the small fact that Jack has been better than Greenwood even if we ignore the positional stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 6 hours ago, a m ole said: Gareth Southgate replies to "enjoy your meal" with "thanks, you too" Not gonna lie, I felt this one in my soul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Gareth southgate has no idea who John McClane is 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ramshackler Posted August 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2020 His argument makes no sense. Jack gives a different style to all those players mentioned. It's why we have no plan B. When we come up against an average but we'll organised defence the pace of rashford et al means nothing as you cannot get in behind them. It's why time and again we come unstuck against these well drilled sides. Keep picking your four fast clones, you'll keep having the same issues. Foden and Jack offer something different 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Jack in the new kit today 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2020 The CIA have got Gareth Southgate pushing too many pencils 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 32 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Jack in the new kit today Bricking it about that left ankle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) Gareth Southgate comes home from St George’s Park with his pants in a plastic bag after forgetting he needed the toilet Edited August 26, 2020 by Follyfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, ramshackler said: His argument makes no sense. Jack gives a different style to all those players mentioned. It's why we have no plan B. When we come up against an average but we'll organised defence the pace of rashford et al means nothing as you cannot get in behind them. It's why time and again we come unstuck against these well drilled sides. Keep picking your four fast clones, you'll keep having the same issues. Foden and Jack offer something different I totally agree....I too don't see Jack as a direct comparison that Southgate seems to see.....but hey ho....He is the manager.....I see jack as more versatile than those he is being compared with by Southgate. Jack does offer something different, like carrying the ball and the sublime weight of his passes......I would have thought at International level, this is a crucial trait to have and not many have....Jack is adept at getting players to foul him to get the ball, another tactical weapon at International level, to win territorial advantage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Gareth Southgate doesn’t get the fishsticks joke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Gareth southgate's real name is Karen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 hours ago, ramshackler said: His argument makes no sense. Jack gives a different style to all those players mentioned. It's why we have no plan B. When we come up against an average but we'll organised defence the pace of rashford et al means nothing as you cannot get in behind them. It's why time and again we come unstuck against these well drilled sides. Keep picking your four fast clones, you'll keep having the same issues. Foden and Jack offer something different That's the key for me. It's not relevant if Jack is or isn't as good as the other players, it's that he is different to them. Offers a completely different dynamic. So when the chips are down and England need to make a change Southgate is proposing to carry on doing the same thing just swapping one similar player with another, so nothing changes you are just hoping that player manages to do something better than the other. His inability to recognise this badly exposes his limitations as a manager. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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