Dave-R Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said: How effective would he have been if he'd been playing behind a front 3 of Sterling, Sancho and Kane though? I see him as playing a fairly free attacking role where he drifts left. Imagine how much more space the wingers will get with opponents having to worry about Jack. That's it southgate failed to see what positives Grealish could offer in the squad. One of those positives is drawing many a player towards him, opposition feel the need to gang up on him, so at the moment that happens he draws fouls or send a pass through to the forward line. How the hell southgate doesnt see what the common sense people see about Grealish I do not bloody know. I wont sending coal to Southgate for Christmas I will be throwing it at him, has lost any last respect I had for him after this. He should not of left Grealish out of the squad when he is a totally different player to everyone in that team. Grealish is someone that if you utilise properly could lead to many dangerous scenarios as we well know. He can hold up the ball, he can drive the ball, he can draw fouls, he can whip one in from anywhere and score, can put keepers under pressure in an instant. Sure he is rubbish at free kicks (yes free kick), but you just never know what Jack is going to pull off, hes random and you need that kind of player in the england squad. England need rid of Southgate, he makes the wrong choices for squad selection. And I dont even need to go on about his image and how he thinks hes visiting the queen or going to play snooker whenever hes on the sideline, ridiculous how much he just doesnt look like an England coach. Southgate can get Super F***ed for all I care now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Gareth Southgate pays for parking on Sundays 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: That’s a bit Newcastle fan esque Is it? Don't get the reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 More from Birmingham Mails Preece on Southgate today... Gareth Southgate's lame Jack Grealish England excuse was crass, unprofessional & didn't stack up Aston Villa comment - It's the morning after the night before and Gareth Southgate has provided his reasoning as to why he left out Aston Villa's star performer... https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/southgate-england-aston-villa-grealish-18829322?fbclid=IwAR2V6I2Cu8odMtCUcQtm9eVM-wSYv-cFqq37K3wjKFSp7-84hoNHFT2DSyk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted August 26, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2020 The only reason Jack hasn't been AS successful for us in the middle of the park as he was in the Championship is the quality of the rest of the team. He's forced to drop deeper and deeper to receive the ball and try to make things happen and that leaves little for him to work with going forward as he's basically the only good attacking player too. With England he wouldn't (or shouldn't) have that issue. He'd have defensive midfielders like Henderson or Rice to do that dirty work for him and give him the ball, and he'd have genuinely world class players like Kane, Sterling and Sancho to work with going forward. If Southgate can't see this, or can't implement a system that gets players like Grealish and Madison involved regularly then he's not fit for the job. And like I said before, we're going to end up wasting what could be, genuinely, a fantastic generation of attacking England players (we're not so blessed at the back) because he's too safe 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, Kingman said: More from Birmingham Mails Preece on Southgate today... Gareth Southgate's lame Jack Grealish England excuse was crass, unprofessional & didn't stack up Aston Villa comment - It's the morning after the night before and Gareth Southgate has provided his reasoning as to why he left out Aston Villa's star performer... https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/southgate-england-aston-villa-grealish-18829322?fbclid=IwAR2V6I2Cu8odMtCUcQtm9eVM-wSYv-cFqq37K3wjKFSp7-84hoNHFT2DSyk To be fair, that is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: The only reason Jack hasn't been AS successful for us in the middle of the park as he was in the Championship is the quality of the rest of the team. He's forced to drop deeper and deeper to receive the ball and try to make things happen and that leaves little for him to work with going forward as he's basically the only good attacking player too. With England he wouldn't (or shouldn't) have that issue. He'd have defensive midfielders like Henderson or Rice to do that dirty work for him and give him the ball, and he'd have genuinely world class players like Kane, Sterling and Sancho to work with going forward. If Southgate can't see this, or can't implement a system that gets players like Grealish and Madison involved regularly then he's not fit for the job. And like I said before, we're going to end up wasting what could be, genuinely, a fantastic generation of attacking England players (we're not so blessed at the back) because he's too safe England have their most talented team in my living memory (I'm 32). This team is streets ahead of the mid 2000's team although that defence was much better and defence is very important at international tournaments. And it's all going to be wasted with Southgate as manager. Now I'm Irish so this doesn't upset me greatly but it's crazy to think that the FA can't see this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: England have their most talented team in my living memory (I'm 32). This team is streets ahead of the mid 2000's team although that defence was much better and defence is very important at international tournaments. And it's all going to be wasted with Southgate as manager. Now I'm Irish so this doesn't upset me greatly but it's crazy to think that the FA can't see this. It's shocking! The next decade or so will be England's best chance for ages of actually winning something and the FA just want a spineless yes man in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2020 Just now, sparrow1988 said: England have their most talented team in my living memory (I'm 32). This team is streets ahead of the mid 2000's team although that defence was much better and defence is very important at international tournaments. And it's all going to be wasted with Southgate as manager. Now I'm Irish so this doesn't upset me greatly but it's crazy to think that the FA can't see this. I think defence and goalkeeper means I can't rate the team, on paper, as highly as that "golden generation". But certainly midfield and attack we should be on the brink of a genuinely brilliant team. I keep saying it but Kane, Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Grealish, Madison, Foden is a selection of attackers that most teams in the world would envy (or at least will envy when players like Foden fully develop) Maybe out and out strikers we're lacking a little bit with Kane probably being the only top quality option. But it's a very good selection. One of the reasons this Grealish stuff annoys me so much is it feels like we're wasting massive potential in the whole squad by excluding players like him and Madison. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Ok I am going to be a bit biased but surely there is space for Grealish in the England Squad. He has to be one of the best 20 English Players. I would understand more if Mings wasn't in the squad. I don't understand Mouthgate's reasonings at all. The guy is class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I think the early 2000s team was way more balanced but had much tougher opposition. This England team could win stuff, even with average defensive mids and centre halves. But Southgate will hold them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 England's central midfield is very poor, Winks, Rice, Henderson, and so on aren't bad players but they're all of the same type, basically holding midfielders, there's nothinig in the way of decent box-to-box midfielders or attacking centre-midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Southgate is an a**h***! Petty little man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 30 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Is it? Don't get the reference The last few weeks Newcastle fans have been demanding that the premier league to give them details of why their takeover failed. You said Southgate should be forced to give the true reason behind not selecting Jack, just a tongue in cheek play on that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 No interest in international football, but the fact Mouthgate picked that twunt from Dirty Leeds over Grealish makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, useless said: England's central midfield is very poor, Winks, Rice, Henderson, and so on aren't bad players but they're all of the same type, basically holding midfielders, there's nothinig in the way of decent box-to-box midfielders or attacking centre-midfielders. Grealish or Madison could both be used as excellent attacking central midfielders if Southgate wanted to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanVilla Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Kingman said: More from Birmingham Mails Preece on Southgate today... Gareth Southgate's lame Jack Grealish England excuse was crass, unprofessional & didn't stack up Aston Villa comment - It's the morning after the night before and Gareth Southgate has provided his reasoning as to why he left out Aston Villa's star performer... https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/southgate-england-aston-villa-grealish-18829322?fbclid=IwAR2V6I2Cu8odMtCUcQtm9eVM-wSYv-cFqq37K3wjKFSp7-84hoNHFT2DSyk People couldn't believe Southgate actually said that when villareport first tweeted it (usually posts bullsh*t the fake ITK) because it's so ridiculous. I think it shows his agenda. Yes Mings got picked but what better way to say **** you to the Villa fans than to not pick the golden boy of the club. Almost as if he's picking Mings so he has an excuse. One things for certain, he hasn't forgotten and it at least had an influence. Grow up you Child Snatcher! Edited August 26, 2020 by SeanVilla 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 It takes Gareth Southgate an hour to make two minute noodles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Its a massive mistake that seems illogical. I really can't understand Southgate's rationale at all. Even if he doesnt start he is a very useful squad player that can alter a game. He is a starter for me though, whatever formation and what ever forward line he choses, Grealish gets a midfield berth for me above anyone else. I don't see Southgate backing down, only becoming more entrenched in his view. I don't see Jack getting into a Southgate squad barring several injuries or a change of manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanVilla Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 minute ago, thunderball said: Its a massive mistake that seems illogical. I really can't understand Southgate's rationale at all. Even if he doesnt start he is a very useful squad player that can alter a game. He is a starter for me though, whatever formation and what ever forward line he choses, Grealish gets a midfield berth for me above anyone else. I don't see Southgate backing down, only becoming more entrenched in his view. I don't see Jack getting into a Southgate squad barring several injuries or a change of manager. Agreed. Hope England lose every game moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts