Zatman Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, AV82 said: What a strange way to treat a first-team player. Very disrespectful especially since he seems to be a good egg too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, villa4europe said: Another where we've wasted money on him not because he simply isn't good enough but because we didn't even give him a fair crack of the whip Don't think he was ever going to be a 1st choice PL right back but he deserved more games I think that Leicester debacle before the covid lockdown was the end for Freddie as a Premier League player. That game really highlighted his limitations, especially positionally. It's a shame because I really admired his passion, but let's be honest, we now have what's considered an elite coach, so it makes perfect sense to hopefully have top quality players. I don't even think Cash is going to last under Emery. I think KK has all the attributes to be a really good right - back, and Emery has shown, he has no qualms about playing youngsters . Edited November 4, 2022 by sheepyvillian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Come on Fred, make an impression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Is he even training with the first team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, gwi1890 said: Is he even training with the first team? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, tomav84 said: no Then he’s done here. No way back is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2022 Looks like he is actually registered according to the Premier League site: Quote Aston Villa 25 Squad players (*Home grown) Augustinsson, Hans Carl Ludwig Bailey, Leon Patrick Bednarek, Jan Buendia Stati, Emiliano Cash, Matthew Stuart* Chambers, Calum* Coutinho Correia, Philippe Dendoncker, Leander Digne, Lucas Guilbert, Frederic Ings, Daniel William John* Kamara, Boubacar Bernard Konsa, Ezri Ngoyo* Martinez Romero, Damian Emiliano* McGinn, John Mings, Tyrone Deon* Nakamba, Marvelous Olsen, Robin Sanson, Morgan Stephane Santos Silva, Diego Carlos Soares De Paulo, Douglas Luiz Steer, Jed John* Watkins, Oliver George Arthur* Young, Ashley* U21 players (Contract and Scholars) Afoka, Chisom Kenneth Alcock, Todd Rees Archer, Cameron Desmond Barber, Jayden Christopher Barnes, Mikell Barry, Louie Mark Bogarde, Lamare Trenton Chansey Burchall, Ajani Alexander Edward Chrisene, Benjamin Joshua Chukwuemeka, Chigoziem Caleb Duerden, Archie Ealing, Frankie Edwards, I-Lani Feeney, Joshua Philip Frith, Declan Hammond, Alexander Hart, Taylor-Jay Phillip Hayden, Kaine Kesler Iroegbunam, Timothy Emeka Katsukunya, Thierry Alfred Farai Kellyman, Omari Jamian Lane, Joshua Thomas Lewis, Samuel Jack Lindley, Hayden Taylor Lutz, Charlie Ethan Marschall, Filip McDowell, Jack Mitchell, Dylan Reiss Moore, Kobei Munroe, Finley Christopher Ryan O'Reilly, Aaron Christopher O'Reilly, Tommi Dylan Onuchukwu, Abube-Calvin Patterson, Travis Pavey, Charlie James Philogene-Bidace, Jaden Pierre, Kyrie Jay Victor Raikhy, Arjan Singh Ramsey, Aaron James Ramsey, Jacob Revan, Sebastian Emmanuel Rhoades, Harvey Jack Owen Rowe, Edward James Shakpoke, Ruben Okemute Simpson, Ewan Mark Sinisalo, Viljami Kari Veikko Smith, Kerr David Softley, Luke Paul Sohna, Myles Baboucarr Swinkels, Sil Laurentius Timson, Nile Jordan Joseph Vassilev, Indiana Denchev Wilson, Rory Wright, James Thomas Wright, Tyreik Samuel Young, Bradley Jamie Ethan Young, Kadan Christophe Zych, Oliwier Worth noting that we're pretty close (15) to the maximum of 17 non-homegrown players, especially with 2 homegrown players in Steer and Young likely leaving at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Thought everyone had a clean slate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2022 Surely someone else in France would like to have him playing? Even if we can only get a % of his wages of the books it's surely worth it if the relationship is completely finished. I'll always have a soft spot following him sitting in the stand with the fans at Wembley before he'd even officially started with us but multiple managers now don't seem interested. Maybe Emery just hasn't got round to addressing it yet and there is a way back but it seems strange he's not immediately re-joined the first team. Maybe there is more to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I like Guilbert, but I have yet to see anything that makes him good enough for any club with ambitions higher than avoiding relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Perhaps he has the “Curtis Davies” clause in his contract where we owe him more money if he plays again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Starting for the U21's Not rated by Smith, Gerrard and now Emery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, messi11 said: Starting for the U21's Not rated by Smith, Gerrard and now Emery! People have been very resistant to hearing this, but the problem is he just isn't very good. I hope for everyone's sake he can get a move either on loan or on permanent until the end of his contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 6, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2022 4 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: People have been very resistant to hearing this, but the problem is he just isn't very good. I hope for everyone's sake he can get a move either on loan or on permanent until the end of his contract. Harsh but fair 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Guilbert had a successful loan spell at Strasbourg and seems more than capable. When Cash has been out he would have been a suitable replacement. So I suspect this is not about ability at all but about some internal team politics or there is some personal stuff that's going on. We'll never hear about it of course. He clearly hasn't got a future here but I think that's down to something other than ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 hours ago, jackbauer24 said: Guilbert had a successful loan spell at Strasbourg and seems more than capable. When Cash has been out he would have been a suitable replacement. So I suspect this is not about ability at all but about some internal team politics or there is some personal stuff that's going on. We'll never hear about it of course. He clearly hasn't got a future here but I think that's down to something other than ability. Em I would think Young would have something to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 6, 2022 Moderator Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 hours ago, jackbauer24 said: He clearly hasn't got a future here but I think that's down to something other than ability. You would be 100% correct. Sadly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 12 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: You would be 100% correct. Sadly. Wes caught him in bed with Mallory, didn’t he? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Automatic extension with big raise after x appearances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Pay the man up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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