Popular Post Teale's 'tache Posted January 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2023 I'm not sure it's been as bad a signing as some are making out here. We signed him for (depending on where you Google) €5m - €7m, which isn't a whole lot. Despite being in a new country with precious few French speakers in our squad at the time, he helped us to stay up, helped us to a cup final, and then when things went a bit sour, went out on loan, saving us a bit on his wages if nothing else. It's not been a great transfer no doubt, but it's hardly a Balaban type situation. He was bought to either help us stay up, or to get us out of the championship, he filled that remit just about. Not every transfer we make has to be 0/10 or 10/10, there's plenty of grey area in between. I hope he plays plenty and gets to enjoy the rest of his career. Good luck Fred. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 53 minutes ago, one_ian_taylor said: I think you're right, he's signing Sean Bean for the same reason I hope we've got health insurance, he dies in every bloody thing he turns up in on my telly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted January 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, Teale's 'tache said: I'm not sure it's been as bad a signing as some are making out here. We signed him for (depending on where you Google) €5m - €7m, which isn't a whole lot. Despite being in a new country with precious few French speakers in our squad at the time, he helped us to stay up, helped us to a cup final, and then when things went a bit sour, went out on loan, saving us a bit on his wages if nothing else. It's not been a great transfer no doubt, but it's hardly a Balaban type situation. He was bought to either help us stay up, or to get us out of the championship, he filled that remit just about. Not every transfer we make has to be 0/10 or 10/10, there's plenty of grey area in between. I hope he plays plenty and gets to enjoy the rest of his career. Good luck Fred. Totally agree, I'd rate his time with us a solid 6.... He did the job we bought him for, but he's not going to be good enough for where we want to go. Why we have to hate a player if we don't love him seems ridiculous. Hope he gets a move that suits him, I wish him all the best with his future endeavours. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted January 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: I hope we've got health insurance, he dies in every bloody thing he turns up in on my telly! Yes, but he comes back - it's that kind of resilience we need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 He was signed for the championship if you remember but we got promoted so he was thrown into the Premier League. The problem for a lot of our signings was that the Premier League had progressed so fast in the 3 seasons we were in the championship that some struggled and in hindsight we’d have bought a couple premier league cloggers to help bring them through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Teale's 'tache said: I'm not sure it's been as bad a signing as some are making out here. We signed him for (depending on where you Google) €5m - €7m, which isn't a whole lot. Despite being in a new country with precious few French speakers in our squad at the time, he helped us to stay up, helped us to a cup final, and then when things went a bit sour, went out on loan, saving us a bit on his wages if nothing else. It's not been a great transfer no doubt, but it's hardly a Balaban type situation. He was bought to either help us stay up, or to get us out of the championship, he filled that remit just about. Not every transfer we make has to be 0/10 or 10/10, there's plenty of grey area in between. I hope he plays plenty and gets to enjoy the rest of his career. Good luck Fred. Well. He was there I suppose... We signed him as a championship club that looked to be staying in the championship (and despite a promo rise no doubt) he's still earning such a salary that despite really impressive performances in France we couldn't shift him, we couldn't get a fee and we will still be paying part of his contract. We. Need. To. Do. Better. It's poor. So so poor and these owners are going to continue to underwrite constant losses on players. Edited January 13, 2023 by rodders0223 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Moustache of Teale Posted January 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Teale's 'tache said: I'm not sure it's been as bad a signing as some are making out here. We signed him for (depending on where you Google) €5m - €7m, which isn't a whole lot. Despite being in a new country with precious few French speakers in our squad at the time, he helped us to stay up, helped us to a cup final, and then when things went a bit sour, went out on loan, saving us a bit on his wages if nothing else. It's not been a great transfer no doubt, but it's hardly a Balaban type situation. He was bought to either help us stay up, or to get us out of the championship, he filled that remit just about. Not every transfer we make has to be 0/10 or 10/10, there's plenty of grey area in between. I hope he plays plenty and gets to enjoy the rest of his career. Good luck Fred. Couldn’t have put it better myself. I sometimes wonder if we’re related to one another. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 8 hours ago, turvontour said: I mean to be fair, that was the summer that we had to buy about half of a premier league squad with £100 million. There were likely to be a few that would never work/feature, but then we've arguably got decent value out of Douglas Luiz, Konsa etc. We had him lined before in January, so it was always a bit of a half championship/premier league signing. I never felt that the regime had total trust in his ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Villa_Vids said: Poor signing all things considered. Glad he has gone. How? He helped us stay up from a near impossible position and scored to help us get to a cup final I can think of hundreds of worse Villa players 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 He wasn't good enough, but I'll not knock him too much, he gave his all and he took playing with the U23s this season with dignity. Good luck at Strasbourg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said: A very likeable personality but one of the very few that Deano didnt get on with. Not convinced that's true. I just don't think he rated/trusted him. Freddie posted a positive thank you message about Deano across his socials when he left, and he wasn't even at Villa at the time (was out on loan). Anyway, I think he's a very average RB. Likeable, certainly, but he is very average. Pleased for him that he played a part the season we stayed up. Edited January 14, 2023 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 We've obviously moved beyond Freddie, however, I wish the kid all the best. Will have fond memories of him regardless of him never really elevating himself here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 8 hours ago, DJBOB said: We'll always have Everton at home when we came back up! He was amazing that night, loads of Delaney style slide tackles near the end. Also set up a goal for El Ghazi v Burnley with a lovely cross. Then lost his way a bit like Engels from a bright start and just reverted to occasional starter. Did he actually play for us again after covid hit, you're talking about nearly three years so well overdue he's moving on and makes sense to go back home where he's played well on loan at two different clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 8 hours ago, villa89 said: We saw enough of him to see he wasn't anywhere near good enough. Yet another signing we have to pay to get rid of. Our recruitment over the years has been diabolical. He was only 4m wasn't he so I don't see those transfers as that bad. In modern premier league it's basically a 500k punt from the late 90s. Someone like Sanson is someone we should be getting more value from. A 15m signing with his experience shouldn''t see 2/3 of that wiped off two years later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: He was amazing that night, loads of Delaney style slide tackles near the end. Also set up a goal for El Ghazi v Burnley with a lovely cross. Then lost his way a bit like Engels from a bright start and just reverted to occasional starter. Did he actually play for us again after covid hit, you're talking about nearly three years so well overdue he's moving on and makes sense to go back home where he's played well on loan at two different clubs. Played (and scored!) against Barrow in the LC last season but I don't remember any other games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, VillaChris said: He was amazing that night, loads of Delaney style slide tackles near the end. Also set up a goal for El Ghazi v Burnley with a lovely cross. Then lost his way a bit like Engels from a bright start and just reverted to occasional starter. Did he actually play for us again after covid hit, you're talking about nearly three years so well overdue he's moving on and makes sense to go back home where he's played well on loan at two different clubs. It's madness to me that that season was three years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: How? He helped us stay up from a near impossible position and scored to help us get to a cup final I can think of hundreds of worse Villa players He needs to go if he is not part of the first team group. Both Villa and FG need closure. It isn't healthy. I get that some fans have fond memories of Fred's first season but he is not helping us by staying and not playing games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Villa_Vids said: He needs to go if he is not part of the first team group. Both Villa and FG need closure. It isn't healthy. I get that some fans have fond memories of Fred's first season but he is not helping us by staying and not playing games. You said he was a poor signing though. Not that he needs to go now. Edited January 14, 2023 by Tom13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Villa_Vids said: He needs to go if he is not part of the first team group. Both Villa and FG need closure. It isn't healthy. I get that some fans have fond memories of Fred's first season but he is not helping us by staying and not playing games. He's gone out on two seperate loans in successive seasons and played very well for both. Not his fault we loan him to clubs who can't afford him permanently. We probably should've loaned him to someone like Fulham when they were in championship. He plays 40 games for them in a promotion season and we could've got 4-5m back no problem. Instead he comes back expecting a chance in pre season and is then left out of premier league 25 man squad instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tom13 said: You said he was a poor signing though. Not that he needs to go now. Correct. I think he has been. He has been here just under four years. What has he done here? Really? He has been a poor signing if we are being honest. But some fans have different views on his achievements and I respect that. I think we are lowing the bar if we are praising him for his first season (and that only). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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