Guest av1 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, thunderball said: we’ll be back here in 12months minus Grealish, Chester, McGinn, Kalinic and a few others maybe too. Bloody hell calm down mate, the bloke hasn't even made his debut yet and you're selling him off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 3, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 hours ago, sne said: Chelsea are continuing with their rebuild and are looking at signing a top class striker, Icardi latest to be linked I think they are willing to listen to offers for a lot of fringe players They'll need to get money in from somewhere. I expect they will just steal it from Russian peasants like they normally do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 1 minute ago, sidcow said: I expect they will just steal it from Russian peasants like they normally do? Russian peasants, that's code for Ukrainians, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzaleed Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Nigel said: Id love to know when that cut off point is for the recall. 14th Jan apparently 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 I actually think Chelsea could ultimately get more than the £18M being touted for Tammy and aren’t in a desperate enough position to have to sell him in Jan. Much more sensible to preserve their optionality, see if he can do the biz in the PL and for England and then get a higher fee for him in a season or two. As much as £18M sounds - we’d absolutely love that amount now - they’ll not be worrying about missing out on it. Hes scoring goals, enjoying his football and clearly developing as a player. As such, better to leave him with us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Pimlico_Villa said: I actually think Chelsea could ultimately get more than the £18M being touted for Tammy and aren’t in a desperate enough position to have to sell him in Jan. Much more sensible to preserve their optionality, see if he can do the biz in the PL and for England and then get a higher fee for him in a season or two. As much as £18M sounds - we’d absolutely love that amount now - they’ll not be worrying about missing out on it. Hes scoring goals, enjoying his football and clearly developing as a player. As such, better to leave him with us. Absolutely agree. It's a win-win-win-lose situation. By that I mean that Tammy, Villa, Chelsea all benefit from him continuing on at Villa, Wolves are the ones who would lose out. Though I don't see this one going through, we have to remember that professional football is also big business. The team at Chelsea will be looking at this from two angles. Do we believe he has a future with us at Chelsea as a playing or financial asset and can we get more than what he is worth for him in selling to another club? If Chelsea believe he has punched above his weight, which may surprise some people but it happens all the time, then Wolves have a chance if the offer is right. Edited January 4, 2019 by A'Villan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) Danny **** Ings went for £20M (Who played next to no football for 3 years). Chelsea would be mugs of the highest order to sell him for any less than £30/35M Even that would be cheap for his age, potential and the fact he's English. I'm not worried about Wolves buying him this Jan in the slightest. Edited January 4, 2019 by penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Pimlico_Villa said: I actually think Chelsea could ultimately get more than the £18M being touted for Tammy and aren’t in a desperate enough position to have to sell him in Jan. Much more sensible to preserve their optionality, see if he can do the biz in the PL and for England and then get a higher fee for him in a season or two. As much as £18M sounds - we’d absolutely love that amount now - they’ll not be worrying about missing out on it. Hes scoring goals, enjoying his football and clearly developing as a player. As such, better to leave him with us. 9 hours ago, A'Villan said: Absolutely agree. It's a win-win-win-lose situation. By that I mean that Tammy, Villa, Chelsea all benefit from him continuing on at Villa, Wolves are the ones who would lose out. Though I don't see this one going through, we have to remember that professional football is also big business. The team at Chelsea will be looking at this from two angles. Do we believe he has a future with us at Chelsea as a playing or financial asset and can we get more than what he is worth for him in selling to another club? If Chelsea believe he has punched above his weight, which may surprise some people but it happens all the time, then Wolves have a chance if the offer is right. Agree with you both. I think Chelsea will sit tight on this and not be rushed into any descision right now. He is developing nicely with us and they know if he sustains this here then they could command more for him come May if they decide to sell. We could come along and agree something like £25m with them if/once promoted, if not, they could still command this fee and more come the end of the season to any other interested parties. Edited January 4, 2019 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Can anyone explain how Tammy’s ‘3 club’s in one season’ situation is any different to Ben Arfa not being able to play for Nice after playing for Hull and an U21 match for Newcastle? Tammy has played in an U23 game for Chelsea this season which counts as an official match (for example a red card would ban a player from a first team match, unlike the Charity Shield), so unless someone can point to a relevant rule change since 2015, how is Tammy playing for a third club this season even possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 FIFA got an octopus to draw the possibilty from a fish tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 43 minutes ago, brommy said: Can anyone explain how Tammy’s ‘3 club’s in one season’ situation is any different to Ben Arfa not being able to play for Nice after playing for Hull and an U21 match for Newcastle? Tammy has played in an U23 game for Chelsea this season which counts as an official match (for example a red card would ban a player from a first team match, unlike the Charity Shield), so unless someone can point to a relevant rule change since 2015, how is Tammy playing for a third club this season even possible? I see this as a situation where in the past we would have had our pants pulled down. Hopefully now we’re on the ball and have all bases covered, including a very expensive lawyer just a phone call away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 The people saying he's worth 30 mil plus obviously didn't watch much of Swansea last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 4, 2019 Oh dear. Can't blame him for going premier league - he's ambitious. No hard feelings, but if we find ourselves doing better than Wolves one day we'll be sure to flick the Vs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, Farlz said: Not saying it's not looking the way it is looking, but on the official site it says he can't play in the FA Cup anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, Farlz said: Bloody hell, if he can have his head turned by Wolves I think a bit less of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 4, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 4, 2019 I'd say being rested tomorrow is completely separate from whatever; if anything; is happening on the transfer front. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, briny_ear said: Bloody hell, if he can have his head turned by Wolves I think a bit less of him. Me 2, bugger of then tammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 yeah this looks like game over, he didn't want to move to the Championship on loan in the first place, he wanted to fight for his place or even go on loan in the Prem. at the end of the day as much as we hate Wolves the are in the Prem, unlikely to get relegated and i can't see how he loses from going there, they might buy him at the end of the season, or at worst he is in the shop window and gets a move somewhere else. it would only backfire if they didn't play him and i doubt his ego would let him believe that was likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted January 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 4, 2019 The comment about his head being turned is from Gregg Evans not Smith, so wouldn’t take that as gospel! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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