Guest av1 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: So is this playing for 3 clubs in one season thing no longer a problem? I’ve not been on much all day, but something seems to have happened and people now think Abraham is leaving? Apparently because the charity shield is classed as a friendly it doesn't count as a appearance, so technically he hasn't played for Chelsea this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: So is this playing for 3 clubs in one season thing no longer a problem? I’ve not been on much all day, but something seems to have happened and people now think Abraham is leaving? If someone wants him and he wants to go ..provided a fee is agreed . He will go. I doubt he would turn down the PL tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted January 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, av1 said: Apparently because the charity shield is classed as a friendly it doesn't count as a appearance, so technically he hasn't played for Chelsea this season. He played in an u23 game for them which is classed as an official game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 You know what, I've enjoyed his goals but seriously, I enjoyed watching Johnny Kodjia scoring more. That probably seems stupid and churlish but I mean that. The only goal of Tammy's that's really stood out for me is that goal where he robbed the player down the left wing and ran through and shot past the keeper. Other than that I just remember tap-ins or headers. However, Kodjia's goals just seems like class each time. Question is, can he do that again? I think he could if he's the main man again. He just needs to do away with the selfishness and sulking. If he does that we won't miss Tammy. And, Deano did say he's rather play our own that loanees - now's his chance to prove that, maybe? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted January 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 4, 2019 14 minutes ago, villan-scott said: He played in an u23 game for them which is classed as an official game. Are the press aware of this? If true it's not possible for anyone to sign him and play him this season. It's pretty fundamental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, sidcow said: Are the press aware of this? If true it's not possible for anyone to sign him and play him this season. It's pretty fundamental. Yeah it’s been mentioned. There’s been talk of some deal with Ben Arfa which was scuppered because of this rule. However, pretty sure I’ve also seen some instance mentioned where a player could play for three clubs. Basically, it wouldn’t surprise me if they managed to fudge, sorry, interpret the rules differently and find a way for him to play. Edited January 4, 2019 by Shropshire Lad 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
privateer Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 56 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: wait, we bought Hogan because he had worked with Smith? Yes, it was all part of the long term plan. Problem? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, privateer said: Yes, it was all part of the long term plan. Problem? The foresight of Steve Bruce is something to behold! PS: it starts tomorrow when Hogan bags a double against the Swans! Edited January 4, 2019 by villarocker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Staying with us for the remainder of the season seems like the best option for both Tammy and Chelsea. Going on loan to a struggling Premier League team isn't a great idea. We're creating chances for him left and right to put away, a struggling Premier League team won't give him that luxury. He's the current Championship top scorer, and has played less games than all the other people around him on the top scoring charts. If he keeps this form going through the rest of the season, Chelsea will be able to get more for him in the summer, Tammy will have more interested clubs in him to choose from, and we might possibly have a chance at signing him, if we go up. The only reasoning for Chelsea selling him this month is if they think his stock is at an all time high and will be able to get more for him now than in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, sidcow said: Are the press aware of this? If true it's not possible for anyone to sign him and play him this season. It's pretty fundamental. The press are idiots though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnny from donny Posted January 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, KMitch said: Staying with us for the remainder of the season seems like the best option for both Tammy and Chelsea. Going on loan to a struggling Premier League team isn't a great idea. We're creating chances for him left and right to put away, a struggling Premier League team won't give him that luxury. He's the current Championship top scorer, and has played less games than all the other people around him on the top scoring charts. If he keeps this form going through the rest of the season, Chelsea will be able to get more for him in the summer, Tammy will have more interested clubs in him to choose from, and we might possibly have a chance at signing him, if we go up. The only reasoning for Chelsea selling him this month is if they think his stock is at an all time high and will be able to get more for him now than in the summer. Wait..9th is struggling now? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted January 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, johnny from donny said: Wait..9th is struggling now? It’ll be 8th really after Blues point deduction... muhahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny from donny Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I wonder what Chelsea will value Tammy at when Solanke has gone to Bournemouth for 19 million pounds. Since his first team debut in the 2014-15 season he's scored a total of 8 goals of which 1 was in English football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I'm not sure how I feel about this one. On one hand it's undeniable that he's scored a shed load, on the other I'm fairly sure a lot of that is down to our general attacking play. Would Kodjia have scored around the same amount given the service and chances Abraham has had? I actually think Abraham's touch is pretty poor, his hold up play isn't great and he actually needs quite a few chances to score. There was a match I can't remember who against this season where he missed three or four absolute sitters. But he's a beast in the air and can reach plenty of crosses due to those gangly legs of his. He's certainly a brilliant Championship player but don't think he'll do much at Wolves this season. I think a fully fit Kodjia would, and has proven at Villa, match the kind of scoring Abraham has provided considering the crosses that come in from the wings and the balls through from our much more creative midfield. He holds it up better, I think he finishes better but isn't quite as good in the air. The other obvious issue can be his work ethic. I'm really stuck but I'm not too fussed, I think we may be pleasantly surprised by how little it effects us. On saying that, I think we're going to struggle to make playoffs anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jareth Posted January 4, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2019 As usual, my opinion is dependent on the following criteria - A) He leaves - then he's always been sh*t B - He stays - legend. 7 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 hours ago, villan-scott said: He played in an u23 game for them which is classed as an official game. In that case I stand corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 58 minutes ago, jackbauer24 said: I'm not sure how I feel about this one. On one hand it's undeniable that he's scored a shed load, on the other I'm fairly sure a lot of that is down to our general attacking play. Would Kodjia have scored around the same amount given the service and chances Abraham has had? I actually think Abraham's touch is pretty poor, his hold up play isn't great and he actually needs quite a few chances to score. There was a match I can't remember who against this season where he missed three or four absolute sitters. But he's a beast in the air and can reach plenty of crosses due to those gangly legs of his. He's certainly a brilliant Championship player but don't think he'll do much at Wolves this season. I think a fully fit Kodjia would, and has proven at Villa, match the kind of scoring Abraham has provided considering the crosses that come in from the wings and the balls through from our much more creative midfield. He holds it up better, I think he finishes better but isn't quite as good in the air. The other obvious issue can be his work ethic. I'm really stuck but I'm not too fussed, I think we may be pleasantly surprised by how little it effects us. On saying that, I think we're going to struggle to make playoffs anyway. Main difference for me between Abraham and Kodjia is desire. Tammy has it in abundance whereas Kodge often looks disinterested. Ability wise I don't think there is much between them but Tammy has really led the line well this season and it's difficult to say if Kodge would have had the same impact in terms of goal input. There is however still room for huge improvement to Tammy's overall game (his hold-up play and being more clinical in front of goal being two areas) and I hope that he decides that staying at Villa is the best solution for him at this stage of his development. The game where he missed a few sitters was away at Albion but he's missed chances in other games too, what i do like about him though is that even when he misses he doesn't go hiding, he will come back for more, which is what you need from your goalscorers. The worry is when they are not even getting (into positions for) chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted January 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) This guy is friends with Grealish and a few other players. Hopefully he knows the sketch with Abraham. Edit - He was on the money re Grealish in the summer too! Edited January 4, 2019 by villan-scott 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Jareth said: As usual, my opinion is dependent on the following criteria - A) He leaves - then he's always been sh*t B - He stays - legend. ( C ) Says he's staying..then leaves - Snake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 3 hours ago, johnny from donny said: I wonder what Chelsea will value Tammy at when Solanke has gone to Bournemouth for 19 million pounds. Since his first team debut in the 2014-15 season he's scored a total of 8 goals of which 1 was in English football. Abraham has scored 5 PL goals in 33 appearances. I honestly believe this guy isn’t PL quality and not worth the prices being quoted. Remember Hogan scored like 15 at this point once... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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