bobzy Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 19 hours ago, calcifer said: What would the point of loaning him be? If he doesn't want to stay sell him! We can use that money to find a replacement! You need to have a buyer to have that money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 There is no point loaning him. His performances for us last season were not good enough for us to 'need' him if/when we get promoted. We should either sell him or force him to play for us, as per his contract. If he refuses to play for us then we should sue him for breach of contract. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: There is no point loaning him. His performances for us last season were not good enough for us to 'need' him if/when we get promoted. We should either sell him or force him to play for us, as per his contract. If he refuses to play for us then we should sue him for breach of contract. Agreed, I can't even theoretically see the point in loaning him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 You need to have a buyer to have that money... Well if someone wants to loan him but not buy him can jog on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 41 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Agreed, I can't even theoretically see the point in loaning him. Off the wage bill, playing for a transfer elsewhere - I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwj Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Agreed, I can't even theoretically see the point in loaning him. Really? If no one pays our asking price then put him in the shop window for a year in Germany, France wherever and take his wages off the books. Unfortunately though, I think the relegation release clauses screw that idea right up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 i fear that some of our players are having their quality or potential quality lumped into an overly negative evaluation based on performances this year. I think it's possible and I am hopeful that as a group they each looked worse than they actually are because there was ZERO cohesion and a plan that, if it existed was not clearly understood by most on the field. Personally, I think Gana, Amavi, Veretout, Adama, Ayew, all showed signs that they might be quite handy in the premiership. They all have weaknesses that need to be addressed, but I thought there was clear potential in all of these. (A few other players showed some reason for hope they could be useful as well, but I focused on the summer 2015 acquisitions). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 £7m for Gana is an absolute steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfingers Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I'd be surprised if someone doesn't pay £7mil for him, even if its only one of the promoted 3. After Amavi Ayew, Grealish and Adama, Gana is the only other one that I'd be happy to see play for us again, with the possible exception of Gestede. Not overly bothered either way but I wouldn't want him loaned out. If we can't get our asking price, I'd expect him to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 48 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: i fear that some of our players are having their quality or potential quality lumped into an overly negative evaluation based on performances this year. I think it's possible and I am hopeful that as a group they each looked worse than they actually are because there was ZERO cohesion and a plan that, if it existed was not clearly understood by most on the field. Personally, I think Gana, Amavi, Veretout, Adama, Ayew, all showed signs that they might be quite handy in the premiership. They all have weaknesses that need to be addressed, but I thought there was clear potential in all of these. (A few other players showed some reason for hope they could be useful as well, but I focused on the summer 2015 acquisitions). True. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 21 hours ago, mwj said: Really? If no one pays our asking price then put him in the shop window for a year in Germany, France wherever and take his wages off the books. Unfortunately though, I think the relegation release clauses screw that idea right up. His wages have been automatically reduced as a result of relegation, and we could afford to pay him next season. He won't need to be in 'the shop window'. As you say, a club will be prepared to pay the relegation release clause this summer. So in reality, for him to go on loan elsewhere, we would need to receive an offer, be forced to accept it, he would need to evaluate it, then say 'no thanks, I'd rather stay at Villa' and then we'd need to say well, no Gana, thanks but no thanks, why don't you play in Greece for a year or something. It just doesn't benefit us in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted May 28, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2016 We won't be signing a better player than Gana in the Championship. It makes zero sense to get him out of the club. Bite the bullet, pay his wages, get promoted. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Apparently spurs are set to trigger the 7.1m release clause. I still dont get why the hell we put in a 7m release clause if we paid 10m? Surely you put in the figure you paid. Another masterstroke from that imbecile Tom Fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Agreed. It's baffling really. All I can think it that it was a relegation release clause rather than a standard release clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 20 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Apparently spurs are set to trigger the 7.1m release clause. I still dont get why the hell we put in a 7m release clause if we paid 10m? Surely you put in the figure you paid. Another masterstroke from that imbecile Tom Fox If true, this is incredibly amateurish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_c Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 There may well be a lower release clause because we were relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 For **** sake. 7 Mil can't be right surely? That would be an absolute holocaust of a decision. He'll be raved about at Spurs next season if he goes there, no doubt in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Unless we actually paid £7m? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAngel Posted June 10, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 10, 2016 Have we ever got good value for selling on any of our players since Lerner arrived? I feel like we pay high prices and get low sell on fees for everyone. Other than Downing and maybe Benteke we let our boys go for pennies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 If Spurs are willing to pay £7.1m for him that suggests that they have seen something more in him than some of us may have. Knowing how Levy works I can see him coming in with a £3m bid to take him off our hands if he makes one at all. Gana would also be likely to be facing a season sitting on their bench albeit on higher wages than he would get for playing a full season for us. So it may come down to weighing the value of playing regular games vs more money. I know how that has a habit of ending up and that would be a pity as this is one of the players that I feel could do a job for us this season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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