DCJonah Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 3 hours ago, bobzy said: He's really not - he's had a great season, though. Before this season, he was unheard of and uncapped. Does that matter? What he did previously doesn't have anytthing to do with what he did this year. Gana was shit in comparison. I can't believe it's actually up for debate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Gana is a complete Kante 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I'd like him to stay but if he wants out let him go. He will do well in the championship but he wants out. If there is a release clause that's the opening price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 7 hours ago, Harry said: I'd like him to stay but if he wants out let him go. He will do well in the championship but he wants out. If there is a release clause that's the opening price. Opening price? It is the price, you can't start a bidding war. If the clause is £7m, Villa can't reject a bid of £7m because someone has bid £10m. Therefore no one will bid more than the clause. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 20 hours ago, useless said: Based on last season Kante was better than Gueye. But has Kante ever had a season as good as the last one, in his whole career? He's 25, so it might suggest that it wasn' the norm for him, and there's a good chance he'll regress to his normal form over the coming seasons. Gueye probably has more scope to improve. Gueye is older than Kante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 That wasn't the point. Kante played exceptional last season, probably his best season by some distance, but coming as it did at the age of 25, it suggests that it isn't his normal form, so next season he's likely to drop off a bit. All i'm really saying is that Gueye has more room to improve whereas Kante is not likely to carry on the form of last season, albeit he might, and probably will still be better than Gueye. They're both good players I believe, but at this moment in time there isn't much justification for not admitting that Kante is the better of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 2 hours ago, AlwaysAVFC said: Opening price? It is the price, you can't start a bidding war. If the clause is £7m, Villa can't reject a bid of £7m because someone has bid £10m. Therefore no one will bid more than the clause. So what happens if more than one club wants him which was my point. Can you explain to me, based on you reply, why we would turn down £10m in favour of £7m when both bidders have met the release clause? if only one club wants him clearly they get him for £7m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 11 minutes ago, Harry said: So what happens if more than one club wants him which was my point. Can you explain to me, based on you reply, why we would turn down £10m in favour of £7m when both bidders have met the release clause? if only one club wants him clearly they get him for £7m any club that wants him just bids 7million and clause activated. any bidding war will only be with his agent over signing on fee and wages 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 52 minutes ago, Harry said: So what haspens if more than one club wants him which was my point. Can you explain to me, based on you reply, why we would turn down £10m in favour of £7m when both bidders have met the release clause? if only one club wants him clearly they get him for £7m Why would you bid more when his release clause Is 7m? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 Will anyone actually meet his release clause? If not, despite what his agent and possibly he might want he will remain our player unless we accept a bid of less than that and I hope we would not consider doing that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Why would you bid more when his release clause Is 7m? If there is one club that wants him the price is obviously £7m. My point was, and is, if two or more clubs want him both can 'activate' the clause. It's then down to price and who Gana wants to go to. Personally if he goes I think he will go for £7m as he's not that good. Edited June 15, 2016 by Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysAVFC Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Harry said: If there is one club that wants him the price is obviously £7m. My point was, and is, if two or more clubs want him both can 'activate' the clause. It's then down to price and who Gana wants to go to. Personally if he goes I think he will go for £7m as he's not that good. The price has nothing to do with it as long as it meets the clause. One club could bid £20m (they wouldn't) and another could bid £7m, both would meet the clause and Gana could choose between either. We would have no right to reject the £7m bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 15, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Harry said: If there is one club that wants him the price is obviously £7m. My point was, and is, if two or more clubs want him both can 'activate' the clause. It's then down to price and who Gana wants to go to. Personally if he goes I think he will go for £7m as he's not that good. No. All a transfer fee does is gives the buying club permission to speak to the player, i.e. the selling club agrees that they are willing to sell the player for that amount. If there is a release clause, that decision is taken out of the selling club's hands. All that means is if ANYONE bids £7m, they get to speak to the player. If one club bids £7m they can talk to him. If 50 clubs bid £7m they can all talk to him. He then decides where he's going (or if he's staying) We don't have a choice. We can't take a higher offer because it makes no difference. A club for some reason offering £10m is pointless, because we don't have the ability to turn down the lower offers and take the higher one. We're not allowed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 On 14/06/2016 at 22:15, DCJonah said: Does that matter? What he did previously doesn't have anytthing to do with what he did this year. Gana was shit in comparison. I can't believe it's actually up for debate In which case, Jamie Vardy is "several levels" better than Olivier Giroud/Anthony Martial/Alexis Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) 17 hours ago, Harry said: If there is one club that wants him the price is obviously £7m. My point was, and is, if two or more clubs want him both can 'activate' the clause. It's then down to price and who Gana wants to go to. Personally if he goes I think he will go for £7m as he's not that good. I suggest researching what a release clause is. there is no bidding war, whoever wants him offers the requisite amount and then it comes down to who offers him/his agent the highest salary or most attractive overall package. Edited June 16, 2016 by bannedfromHandV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 7m is a good price for him considering the recent history of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Better than Kante Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Would be the biggest coup of our season if we kept hold of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 26 minutes ago, Reivax_Villa said: Would be the biggest coup of our season if we kept hold of him Yeah, the same kind of coup as when we signed Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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