Kiwivillan Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Until teams figured him out and realized when you press him and is in his face he's got nothing Pretty much. I thought and still think he's a busted flush back in the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Just now, Kiwivillan said: Pretty much. I thought and still think he's a busted flush back in the PL You might be right, but he should be given the chance to prove otherwise under Emery. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, duke313 said: You might be right, but he should be given the chance to prove otherwise under Emery. Depends what you mean by give him a chance. Bailey and Buendia gives Unai the energy and intensity required to play the counter pressing style. We don't have 80 % possession in games for Coutinho to actually be useful. He is just a misfit in this system. Coutinho will get s backup role at best and I doubt he'll be content with that. And his age coupled with his wages it would be the best for both parties if we could move him on. Edited December 15, 2022 by Pinebro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 17 hours ago, Blasterpocket68 said: Disagree about Watkins - he runs the channels non stop for the benefit of the team far from selfish. I’m struggling to see a spot for him . There is running and intelligent running......I like Ollie, but running the channels alone, is not enough....he has to have end product. Some used to say Vassell was good at running the channels, and as noble as it is, we need more than that. Back to Phil......we need to see him when he is fit and Unai works with him. I have not given up on Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) It's amazing the ability football fans have for ignoring something that is staring them bang in the face. He's finished. He's slower than a week in jail. He's not the best player at the club and he isn't creative. He was a sharp instinctive player that could get a yard and bang a goal. He can't get a yard anymore because he moves like Ross McCormack. He doesn't fit in. He's not PL robust anymore. It's not going to work and he didn't leave Barca to try twice as hard to not get games for Villa. It isn't going to work. Nonsensical signing. Pay him up Edited December 15, 2022 by rodders0223 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Fun Factory Posted December 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: It's amazing the ability football fans have for ignoring something that is staring them bang in the face. He's finished. He's slower than a week in jail. He's not the best player at the club and he isn't creative. He was a sharp instinctive player that could get a yard and bang a goal. He can't get a yard anymore because he moves like Ross McCormack. He doesn't fit in. He's not PL robust anymore. It's not going to work and he didn't leave Barca to try twice as hard to not get games for Villa. It isn't going to work. Nonsensical signing. Pay him up He looked decent when he first joined us. He has then been largely rubbish but so has virtually every player under Gerrard's reign of terror. He then got injured. I don't think anyone expects him to be the Coutinho of the Liverpool days but I think it's too early to write a man off who has so much talent and does not seem to be a bad influence. Surely its best to try again rather than giving up and righting off a huge chunk of wages. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted December 15, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2022 When we start winning games and opponents are setting up at Villa Park with a low block rather than expecting to beat us, like they did under Gerrard, we'll need both Coutinho and Emi. Yes, he might not be cut out for the intense pressing of the modern PL, but ever since I can remember we've been crap against teams who set up to hit us on the counter. Or that have had a man sent off. We don't want a squad full of carbon copy replacements for each other. We need variety. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Swap deal for Messi. He'll want Emi's babies after Sunday, of he doesn't already for winning more with Argentina than ever before our hunk of loveable madman (aren't all great goalies a bit off their heads) came along. If Leo thinks winning with Argentina is high octane imagine finally winning us something after all these years? He can have his statue, after Unai and Emi's of course. As for Coutinho. Played for a contract then went off the boil. Like god knows how many times I saw Hendroe do around contract renewal time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 It was really sweet of him to post UTV in the stands during the Villarreal friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 5 hours ago, stewiek2 said: Swap deal for Messi. He'll want Emi's babies after Sunday, of he doesn't already for winning more with Argentina than ever before our hunk of loveable madman (aren't all great goalies a bit off their heads) came along. If Leo thinks winning with Argentina is high octane imagine finally winning us something after all these years? He can have his statue, after Unai and Emi's of course. As for Coutinho. Played for a contract then went off the boil. Like god knows how many times I saw Hendroe do around contract renewal time. A bit harsh as all reports say hes taken a massive wage cut. If he only wanted money hed stay at Barcelona and the go to some obscure league like mls or Saudi arabia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, The_Steve said: It was really sweet of him to post UTV in the stands during the Villarreal friendly Was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I don't think he's completely forgotten how to play, if that was the case he wouldn't have looked like a genius in his first string of games here less than 12 months ago. He has played several games for Brazil in 2022. Like several other players who completely lost form under Gerrard, he needs to be given time under Emery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshharris12 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Stick him upfront Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 22 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: 2021/22 19 appearances, 5 goals, 3 assists, 5 big chances created. Not s**** at all really. Didnt he pick up most of them stats in the games vs Southampton and Leeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 15 hours ago, stewiek2 said: Swap deal for Messi. He'll want Emi's babies after Sunday, of he doesn't already for winning more with Argentina than ever before our hunk of loveable madman (aren't all great goalies a bit off their heads) came along. If Leo thinks winning with Argentina is high octane imagine finally winning us something after all these years? He can have his statue, after Unai and Emi's of course. As for Coutinho. Played for a contract then went off the boil. Like god knows how many times I saw Hendroe do around contract renewal time. Complete nonsense. He could have just stayed at Barca and be on double the wages. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Didnt he pick up most of them stats in the games vs Southampton and Leeds You forgot Manure and Citeh too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 5 hours ago, duke313 said: Complete nonsense. He could have just stayed at Barca and be on double the wages. Yep I don't think he played us. I think he saw the writing was on the wall towards his fading powers and he saw Villa as a chance to train at a consolidated effort and play football regularly but he's had the shock of his life. He's just not up to it anymore. Gerrard was awful. The football was awful but it wasn't Gerrard's fault Coutinho couldn't gain a half a yard on even the most turgid of footballers. It's awful watching him. This is why old pros go to poor league's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 7 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: You forgot Manure and Citeh too... And that's virtually the only games he's really contributed to anything, because if he isn't scoring or assisting it very much feels like playing with 10 men. Great on paper, but on the grass he's been as effective as el Ghazi if not less. Hope Unai can get a tune out of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 2 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Yep I don't think he played us. I think he saw the writing was on the wall towards his fading powers and he saw Villa as a chance to train at a consolidated effort and play football regularly but he's had the shock of his life. He's just not up to it anymore. Gerrard was awful. The football was awful but it wasn't Gerrard's fault Coutinho couldn't gain a half a yard on even the most turgid of footballers. It's awful watching him. This is why old pros go to poor league's. He isn't that old though! He was 29 when he joined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Hes capable of producing good moments in games but hes not up to the physical challenge of the Premier League anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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