Steero113 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Jas10 said: “Outlay” - expense, the transfer fee and massive wages. He has looked like a player in decline. If you thought I meant “output” then I acknowledge that he had the most goal contributions but, let’s be honest, we all expected a lot more from him and that’s not a huge feat for what was an underperforming side/squad. You make some fair points and I hope he gets more time (especially if Ollie continues to struggle) and shows what he’s about. I didn’t speak of pace, I know he’s not fast. But he really struggled to seem to get going and didn’t look very mobile, most of the time. Seems to struggle to get around the pitch and would be better off focusing on CF position rather than playing deep (we have better or more suited players for that). On Brentford, if I remember correctly, didn’t he play as the lone striker? Was set up beautifully by Buendia. Yes I remember those moments but you’ve also seemingly overlooked (in your comment) the poor performances and easy chances that he missed. He wasn’t as reliable as we assumed he would be. It’s easy to pick out 2 or 3 moments but that’s not enough… For me, the greater question is that SG must decide on his preferred CF and not continue to play the players who are in poorer form. Don’t mean to be harsh on him, no one other than JJ and Cash had a good season or showed their best. Hope they can all do better and that we have a great season. We need to get the best out of these players… I meant output, sorry got mixed up. I hope he's given a chance, i.e a proper run of games where is starts up front on his own and is the focal point. Not pissing around with a Watkings combo or out wide, a proper lone striker role, ideally with Coutinho, Buendia and Bailey behind him (not that that is likely to happen). Not that it means anything until he deliver in games, but in training coaches have apparently been eulogising that he's be lethal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Steero113 said: I meant output, sorry got mixed up. I hope he's given a chance, i.e a proper run of games where is starts up front on his own and is the focal point. Not pissing around with a Watkings combo or out wide, a proper lone striker role, ideally with Coutinho, Buendia and Bailey behind him (not that that is likely to happen). Not that it means anything until he deliver in games, but in training coaches have apparently been eulogising that he's be lethal. No problem mate and I agree with you. SG can piss off with forcing them both in the side and not giving Buendia starts. Emi is our prime creator and must play… he makes us better. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Big chance to stake a claim for the shirt today 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 (edited) C’mon Danny, show us why we brought you… Looking forward to him playing today! Edited August 6, 2022 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 pleasantly surprised he's starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 What in the absolute cluck has happened ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Ings and Buendia have shown they play well together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Zatman said: Ings and Buendia have shown they play well together Repeatedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 He was sharp first 30 mins but then what could he possibly do with the way we played football for that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Its hard to judge because he had zero service. Mind you we said that for most of last season about Watkins. Its a toss up who starts the next game unless you pick them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Have his legs gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Just now, Zhan_Zhuang said: Have his legs gone? He has had his fair share of injuries over the years and they may have caught up with him a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2022 Ings is still a good PL level striker. How he never scores for us, I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJim Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 3 hours ago, AVTuco said: Ings is still a good PL level striker. How he never scores for us, I don't understand. If he never scores for us, how on earth do you draw this conclusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted August 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, BigJim said: If he never scores for us, how on earth do you draw this conclusion? I just think he's still the same player, but somehow we are not able to use him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Thought he was very bright early on, couple of decent snapshots and was involved. Faded as game went on but he really was feeding on scraps so while I've been a critic he gets a pass for me but get feeling Gerrard will put Watkins back in v Everton. Feeling persists though that while he's been prolific elsewhere he just isn't going to score many goals for us so we just signed him at the wrong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 We create hardly anything for our strikers because we don’t control the game enough in midfield and get our dangerous players on the ball enough in the right areas. Id stick with Ings because he’s better on the ball than Watkins and will at least help us keep it more. Watkins wouldn’t have scored yesterday either. All of our problems lie in the central midfield area. Until we get the balance right in there, I can’t see us scoring enough goals to get us into the top half of the league. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I agree our strikers are not getting enough service but both Ings & Watkins are still not doing their jobs. Finish your chances. Thats the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: We create hardly anything for our strikers because we don’t control the game enough in midfield and get our dangerous players on the ball enough in the right areas. Id stick with Ings because he’s better on the ball than Watkins and will at least help us keep it more. Watkins wouldn’t have scored yesterday either. All of our problems lie in the central midfield area. Until we get the balance right in there, I can’t see us scoring enough goals to get us into the top half of the league. How is it that we all know this and yet this still has yet to be resolved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, ciggiesnbeer said: I agree our strikers are not getting enough service but both Ings & Watkins are still not doing their jobs. Finish your chances. Thats the job. What chances? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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