AV82 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 What a colossal waste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 The small amount of time he was on the pitch, his touch and lay offs were chalk and cheese to watkins. Ollie had 1 effort which led to our goal and was ineffective for the rest of the game, again poor touch mis placed passes wrong wave length on through balls. Ings just looked far more comfortable in those minutes he was out there. There's space for both in our 1st team Squad at the moment due to lack of anyone better at this level on our books who is proven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 I think that Ings will be warming the bench for most of the season. SG has made clear that he wants to focus on basics and defending before trying a possession game again. And as long as we're hoofing long balls to the front, Watkins is going to be favored over Ings because of his ability to hold up the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 On 17/09/2022 at 15:05, brummybloke said: The small amount of time he was on the pitch, his touch and lay offs were chalk and cheese to watkins. Ollie had 1 effort which led to our goal and was ineffective for the rest of the game, again poor touch mis placed passes wrong wave length on through balls. Ings just looked far more comfortable in those minutes he was out there. There's space for both in our 1st team Squad at the moment due to lack of anyone better at this level on our books who is proven. Not proven, I know, but I would love to see Archer given more minutes. I think he could do it, and, let's face it, our main strikers, especially Ings, are not performing well at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 59 minutes ago, TomC said: I think that Ings will be warming the bench for most of the season. SG has made clear that he wants to focus on basics and defending before trying a possession game again. And as long as we're hoofing long balls to the front, Watkins is going to be favored over Ings because of his ability to hold up the ball. are you having a laugh?, are you really saying Watkins is good at holding up the ball? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, MaVilla said: are you having a laugh?, are you really saying Watkins is good at holding up the ball? No, not having a laugh...I've thought that he's good at holding up the ball for a long time. If you don't believe me, read what Guardiola said about him after the Man City game. Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather play Ings in my ideal side, but SG isn't going to play my ideal side, and for the way he says he's going to play right now, Watkins is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Have we all kidded ourselves with this player? Burnley ( 2013-14) 26 goals Southampton ( 2019-20) 20 goals only 2 more seasons has he scored more than 10 goals in a total of 13 seasons. he has scored 117 goals in 337 games averaging a goal every 2.8 games. Are we over rating him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 1 minute ago, TRO said: Have we all kidded ourselves with this player? Burnley ( 2013-14) 26 goals Southampton ( 2019-20) 20 goals only 2 more seasons has he scored more than 10 goals in a total of 13 seasons. he has scored 117 goals in 337 games averaging a goal every 2.8 games. Are we over rating him? Yes. And that was when he was still at his best. He is just not the player he was, unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, TRO said: Have we all kidded ourselves with this player? Burnley ( 2013-14) 26 goals Southampton ( 2019-20) 20 goals only 2 more seasons has he scored more than 10 goals in a total of 13 seasons. he has scored 117 goals in 337 games averaging a goal every 2.8 games. Are we over rating him? I mean, he only has one proper good season in the prem so you tell me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 He’s got a good football brain, link up play is so much better than Watkins. Get him Coutinho and Buendia as the front three for a run of games and we’d improve massively. Lots of 1-2’s around the box with the movement from Ings and Buendia would create so much more. It won’t happen though unfortunately. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted October 7, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 7, 2022 Ings against lesser opponents, Watkins against better ones. Too easy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 2 hours ago, TRO said: Have we all kidded ourselves with this player? Burnley ( 2013-14) 26 goals Southampton ( 2019-20) 20 goals only 2 more seasons has he scored more than 10 goals in a total of 13 seasons. he has scored 117 goals in 337 games averaging a goal every 2.8 games. Are we over rating him? Should always use goals per minute rather than goals per game as you never know how many were off the bench etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 3 hours ago, AVTuco said: Ings against lesser opponents, Watkins against better ones. Too easy? Watkins when you're hoofing long balls and need him to hold up the ball. Ings when you're playing Buendia and letting him thread through balls, because the two of them read each other so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 5 hours ago, TRO said: Have we all kidded ourselves with this player? Burnley ( 2013-14) 26 goals Southampton ( 2019-20) 20 goals only 2 more seasons has he scored more than 10 goals in a total of 13 seasons. he has scored 117 goals in 337 games averaging a goal every 2.8 games. Are we over rating him? I think so. He hasnt looked like a player who will get anywhere near 20 goals in a season for us. Gerrard has a quandary because Watkins is not scoring but Ings cannot play as a lone striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, PaulC said: I think so. He hasnt looked like a player who will get anywhere near 20 goals in a season for us. Gerrard has a quandary because Watkins is not scoring but Ings cannot play as a lone striker. Has he even had 20 shots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, PaulC said: I think so. He hasnt looked like a player who will get anywhere near 20 goals in a season for us. Gerrard has a quandary because Watkins is not scoring but Ings cannot play as a lone striker. You only have to watch Danny, to know, that is unlikely to happen Here's the question Paul, even though, its hypothetical. Would Haaland score for us? Edited October 7, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, TRO said: You only have to watch Danny, to know, that is unlikely to happen Here's the question Paul, even though, its hypothetical. Would Haaland score for us? Yep. We'd be in the European places if we had him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, PaulC said: Yep. We'd be in the European places if we had him We would not and he also would not get many chances for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: We would not and he also would not get many chances for us Of course he would. You are telling me we wouldnt have got another 4 points if we had Haaland. 2 against Leeds for a start. We'd have beaten West Ham too Edited October 7, 2022 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 On 17/09/2022 at 14:38, AV82 said: What a colossal waste of money. its looking that way. I was pleased as punch, when we signed him......I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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