sparrow1988 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, MaVilla said: Very interesting video about a "modern" no 10. As I, and many others on here have alluded to, this discusses the "old" no 10 role where they were excused from most defensive and team duties to be the "creative spark", however it also discusses the modern re-invention of the no 10, to be still creative, but also require more in terms of teamwork and defensive duties. I think i have said it a couple of times now, but Barkley seems to me to be the old style of no 10, where tbh.....the modern game just cant accommodate an old school no 10 (generally speaking - yes elite clubs probably could, but not your "normal" teams) For me, Barkley needs to become more of the "modern" no 10 if he is to succeed, he cant just be the creative outlet but lazy type old school no 10, our team just cant carry a player, its that simple. I saw this yesterday and thought about what a player like that would do for Villa. Can Barkley be that player? I don't know. If he and the club want to move on to the next level then he needs to be. If you go 4-2-3-1 you need this dynamic 10 described in the video. I think Grealish could do it but that's not something that I want to go in to now. If you go 4-3-3 you need the middle man of the front 3 to drop a la Firmino or whatever midfielder/winger City have decided to play up front this time. The way that the game is played now doesn't really indulge that old school 10. Look at Özil for a more high profile example. One of the most creative skillful players of the last 10 years but there's no place for him in the PL or any of the other top leagues anymore. @GENTLEMAN mentioned maybe he could be accomodated if the balance of the midfield was changed. I don't think you get that balance with a 10 that doesn't do the jobs described in the video regardless of who the other two in the midfield are, at least not if you want to be one of the top teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Needs to step today with No Jack or GTFO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 If he wants any chance of being England's number 10 this summer he'll need to outshine Maddison today. If he doesn't then it'll be nearly impossible for him to make it with what is left of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted February 21, 2021 Moderator Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, YouUnastanFren said: If he wants any chance of being England's number 10 this summer he'll need to outshine Maddison today. If he doesn't then it'll be nearly impossible for him to make it with what is left of this season. I think it's impossible for him to do that in fairness. Here's the first second and third choices in my opinion: First choice -- Grealish------Foden------Sterling Second choice - Rashford----Maddison---Sancho Third choice - Barnes-----Mount------Hudson-Odoi I think Gareth will take five or six of those players - the depth England have in these positions is extraordinary - I can't see any way Ross gets anywhere near it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I think it's impossible for him to do that in fairness. Here's the first second and third choices in my opinion: First choice -- Grealish------Foden------Sterling Second choice - Rashford----Maddison---Sancho Third choice - Barnes-----Mount------Hudson-Odoi I think Gareth will take five or six of those players - the depth England have in these positions is extraordinary - I can't see any way Ross gets anywhere near it. While I'd probably agree with this, I think southgate rates rashford ahead of grealish and mount ahead of maddison. One thing is clear, England have some unbelievable options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanmac Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Cometh the hour.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 He needs to put in a proper shift now jacks out. Something he has not done in a long time for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Take him off for god sake zero again useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, brummybloke said: Take him off for god sake zero again useless Watch him running for the Maddison goal. Embarrassing. Let alone his attacking output 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Seen lads on a sunday morning after getting in at 6 a.m with more energy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilbertoAVFC Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 He's either not fit or not arsed. Or both. Whatever it is, he simply cannot be more effective than anybody on our bench. Why waste resources and hinder the development of Ramsey/integration of Sanson for this luxury player. And by luxury I mean a first-class seat on a Chiltern line from Moor St to Marylebone, and the free wi-fi barely works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I think the case for making him a permanent is weak, shades of what we hoped we'd get but sadly not enough, much better value to be had else where or even from within the squad already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Has been putting in more effort leaving the pitch than he has been on the pitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted February 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 I'm fed up of watching this overpaid, unfit drama queen have a public strop because his performance has been so bad he's been taken off several games in a row. I'd much rather we develop Ramsey than watch this manchild underwhelm for the rest of the season. Euros? You've not got a **** chance, mate. Go home. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I’m not against sending him home now. Hate his attitude and the fact he’s useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Be glad when he’s back at Chelsea not even making there match day squad, sick of seeing his petulance when he gets subbed, today took the piss sitting on the advertisement’s and walking back without his boots on, Been shit for weeks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmirch Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 **** off you word removed Cinderella wannabe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornburyVilla Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 It can’t be a coincidence that he gets taken off at 75 mins each week, is that the minimum he has to play on the contract? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted February 21, 2021 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2021 The person he wants to be angry with when he's coming off in games is himself. Play better; play longer. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I don't get the hate and he wasn't our worst player today. He really should be dropped though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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