Lerner's Driver Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 On 18/02/2021 at 17:55, VillanousOne said: I may question Dean not dropping Ross, but i am actually a fan of Barkley, was overjoyed and shocked he signed on loan and hoped there was a perm deal in the works.I think there is a trade off at the moment which means we carry him until he regains full form and fitness, which is risky when we aren't playing well. But also might pay off. The very same thought that every manager of every team Ross has played for has had to weigh up. He just doesn't deliver enough wherever he's been. Flashes of high quality, but ultimately flatters to deceive. No doubt he can do it and hope I'm wrong, but doubt I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I wouldn't drop him, I would send him back. Offers something in-between very little and absolutely nothing. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Kingman said: I wouldn't drop him, I would send him back. Offers something in-between very little and absolutely nothing. 100% agree. He's shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 22 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: 100% agree. He's shite. He's not shite, is he? He has quality, as evidenced by the winning goals he's scored for us against Leicester and Southampton. He was also very good against Liverpool and Arsenal, in the first game. The problem is that he's also totally anonymous sometimes and that drop off in performance is what raises big questions about his value to the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, Lerner's Driver said: He's not shite, is he? He has quality, as evidenced by the winning goals he's scored for us against Leicester and Southampton. He was also very good against Liverpool and Arsenal, in the first game. The problem is that he's also totally anonymous sometimes and that drop off in performance is what raises big questions about his value to the team. A broken clock is right twice a day. Stephen Ireland scored that absolute rocket for us. Doesn't make him any less shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, MotoMkali said: A broken clock is right twice a day. Stephen Ireland scored that absolute rocket for us. Doesn't make him any less shit. As I pointed out in my previous post, he has been a key figure in us gaining at least 12 points, so yeah he's shit, well argued. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Think he's been a huge disappointment on the whole but with the number of games still left on the season he'll be a useful option to have. Think he could be a good player to bring on in the last 20-30 minutes in games IF he has the mentality to take that role and work hard when he does play. Obviously that's not a role you pay £100k/w for a player to have but here we are. Rather this than having him start games and mostly be a passenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MotoMkali Posted February 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Lerner's Driver said: As I pointed out in my previous post, he has been a key figure in us gaining at least 12 points, so yeah he's shit, well argued. El Ghazi has earned us at least 10 points this season and I'd say barkley has cost us at least 14 west ham(3), Brighton (2), Burnley (3), Southampton (first game-3), Leeds (3) due to his shite performances. On top of that we would have beaten Liverpool without him. Our first 2 goals had nothing to do with him and we had several other opportunities from that. I would also say our 2nd game at Southampton would have been a lot more comfortable had we not being playing barkley and had anyone else in his place. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 4 hours ago, MotoMkali said: A broken clock is right twice a day. Stephen Ireland scored that absolute rocket for us. Doesn't make him any less shit. people who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.....its hardly a post for you, defending El ghazi......He scores some good goals but is not renowned for his work or involvement. but at least you are right on Ireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I know social media isn’t the best representation of our fan base but how the **** have people on there not realised that his name isn’t spelt ‘Barclay’ yet!? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 hours ago, MotoMkali said: El Ghazi has earned us at least 10 points this season and I'd say barkley has cost us at least 14 west ham(3), Brighton (2), Burnley (3), Southampton (first game-3), Leeds (3) due to his shite performances. On top of that we would have beaten Liverpool without him. Our first 2 goals had nothing to do with him and we had several other opportunities from that. I would also say our 2nd game at Southampton would have been a lot more comfortable had we not being playing barkley and had anyone else in his place. I mean....where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Shite and has single-handedly cost us 14 points you know. Some Villa fans man... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I hope he can turn it around, but he looks like 5-a-side footballer put on a big pitch. Great treading the ball, but not much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I’m hoping with the team getting a chance to spend time on the training ground they can find the style of play and form from the start of the season, our attack was scintillating with Barkley a big part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Very interesting video about a "modern" no 10. As I, and many others on here have alluded to, this discusses the "old" no 10 role where they were excused from most defensive and team duties to be the "creative spark", however it also discusses the modern re-invention of the no 10, to be still creative, but also require more in terms of teamwork and defensive duties. I think i have said it a couple of times now, but Barkley seems to me to be the old style of no 10, where tbh.....the modern game just cant accommodate an old school no 10 (generally speaking - yes elite clubs probably could, but not your "normal" teams) For me, Barkley needs to become more of the "modern" no 10 if he is to succeed, he cant just be the creative outlet but lazy type old school no 10, our team just cant carry a player, its that simple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 17 hours ago, MotoMkali said: El Ghazi has earned us at least 10 points this season and I'd say barkley has cost us at least 14 west ham(3), Brighton (2), Burnley (3), Southampton (first game-3), Leeds (3) due to his shite performances. On top of that we would have beaten Liverpool without him. Our first 2 goals had nothing to do with him and we had several other opportunities from that. I would also say our 2nd game at Southampton would have been a lot more comfortable had we not being playing barkley and had anyone else in his place. I mean, um, I think.... WHAT???? Where has el ghazi earned us 10 points and where has Barkley cost us 14 points. Yes, Barkley has been disappointing particularly in recent weeks, but this... THIS is the most ridiculous post I think I've ever seen. The games he 'cost us', I don't even know where to start. We conceded 4 at home to Southampton. Is that all on him? If you think it is ALL on him, I'd suggest taking up watching another sport. Leeds, west ham at home, see Southampton (-1 goal). Burnley away, we were fantastic that day but made 3 pretty basic defensive errors, is that on Barkley? Does he get anything for us being fantastic? Brighton - I mean, just what? He was particularly poor, no doubt. But not one attacking player came out with any credit, not even jack. Barkley single-handedly cost us 2 points here too? Like I said, he's in a poor run of form. I would drop him, no doubt. But to say he's cost us 14 points this season is insane but to then take away any credit he has from winners scored and good performances because 'he wasn't involved in the first 2 goals' or whatever, is kind of defeating the object of your own post if you use the same logic to the defensive errors. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Barkley is a great addition to our squad no doubt, just in bad form. Us Villians always need a villain, Trez, El Ghazi, Mings and now Barkley, whose next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 15 hours ago, Indigo said: Shite and has single-handedly cost us 14 points you know. Some trolls man... Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 18 hours ago, MotoMkali said: I'd say barkley has cost us at least 14 [points] So by your reckoning, if we didn't have Barkley we'd currently be on 50 points? which would put us in second place. 6 points behind City with two games in hand. Have a lie down pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Maybe he could be accommodated with the right balance in centre mid. The balance of Barkley, Luiz and McGinn doesn’t seem right at the moment. Then the question becomes, is he worth accommodating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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