Laughable Chimp Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, PaddytheVillan said: This for me is the one area that I blame Smith for, without a doubt. Luiz, Nakamba and Hourihane are far better options. Smith seems to believe that if we play him enough, it's worth the initial hit we'll take, as he'll get close to his 2015 form. He's costing us time and time again, and Smith appears to be quite stubborn on this, which I have to say is out of character. It was a punt, it hasn't paid off, it's time to accept that and not have him as first name on the teamsheet after Jack... Its not out of character at all, look at how much he persisted with Wesley. Look at how long we persisted with the 4-3-3. Edited February 16, 2020 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted February 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, AV82 said: How our centre backs are meant to pull in half decent performances with this guy sat in front of them I'll never know. And yet all three of them were far worse than Drinkwater today.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Love Dean but just can't defend or understand how this guy is so high in the pecking order. He's abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, AVTuco said: And yet all three of them were far worse than Drinkwater today.... I think we can all just agree that as a unit, they’re hopeless. Get Mings and Nakamba back in there ASAP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siminjo Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 without being hyperbole, i think he must surely be PL`s slowest player by some distance. There was one moment he had atleast 10 m headstart to the ball, and the ball was only 10 meters away, still he lost the running duel. But somehow i still think he is better than the duo of nakamba and luiz because then our midfield is non existent for much of the game. We had much more possesion then we usually have with him in it. Don`t ask me how, becuase i can`t understand it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Not his biggest fan but I think he did ok for the first half today. By the time he will be match fit it will be April time so I still don't really understand why the brought the fella in. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2020 43 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Love Dean but just can't defend or understand how this guy is so high in the pecking order. He's abysmal. I though he played great today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham t Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, sidcow said: I though he played great today. Of course you did........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: I though he played great today. In what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 50 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Love Dean but just can't defend or understand how this guy is so high in the pecking order. He's abysmal. Spot on. He looks like a 17 year old running around trying to fit in and make a good impression but only making mistakes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Villarocker said: Spot on. He looks like a 17 year old running around trying to fit in and make a good impression but only making mistakes. It wouldn't be so bad if he had the speed and athleticism of a 17 year old. Unfortunately he makes Engels look like Adama at times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Danny Treadwater amitire lads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 He has the head and the attitude that we need. He takes responsibility (unlike all the rest of our midfield), makes himself available, encourages others, looks to make positive runs and passes but ...... his legs are buggered and I don't know why. He has had enough training now to be a lot closer to where he needs to get to but he remains painfully off the pace and that makes him a liability. Smith plays him because he is desperately trying to resolve the problem by getting fitness into him but he is doing a good impression of a spent force ..... a sort of midfield Hogan with all the talent but no conditioning for this level. If Smith doesn't play him then that's it - he gives up on him and he may as well be lobbed in the nearest skip because he won't resolve anything sitting on the bench. Really sad to watch. I think he's a good lad with a real desire to do the business here but the last two years of doing naff-all seem to have destroyed him ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 He did some good things but he doesn't look as sharp as he should. Needed too much time on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted February 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2020 If I was Hourihane I'd be completely bemused at Drinkwater starting ahead of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 On the ball he is ok but issue is off it. Players just walk past him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 It’s amazing he’s so unfit. Most of his social media pics are him with his top off and he’s in the shape of his life. Shows the difference between fitness and match fitness I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I really don't get how he gets picked ahead of Nakamba and Hourihane. I was confused with the selection and 5 minutes into the game he'd given the ball away twice. Just don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 50 minutes ago, PieFacE said: If I was Hourihane I'd be completely bemused at Drinkwater starting ahead of him. Agreeed, Drinkwater makes Conor look like Pirlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, kidlewis said: Agreeed, Drinkwater makes Conor look like Pirlo Yet there were posts in here early on about how Drinkwater is a significantly superior option to Hourihane. Edited February 16, 2020 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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