Adam2003 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, HKP90 said: True, but Barry showed some of that against Liverpool, and now he's driving tractors in Ipswich (which is what I assume they do when not playing). Showing you have all the ingredients is a different thing from just going into the first team somewhere at 18 and staying there. We had fans still writing off Grealish as not PL quality when he was 23 and he’s now the most expensive British player in history… Edited September 24, 2021 by Adam2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: Showing you have all the ingredients is a different thing from just going into the first team somewhere at 18 and staying there. We had fans still writing off Grealish as not PL quality when he was 23 and he’s now the most expensive British player in history… I think there was some doubts on Jack, due to him going to ground so easily, hence his late start to his current profile.....The strength building programme with Ollie Stevenson after his kidney injury, changed all that.....he came back a stronger player and able to resist more, the body checks and challenges.....it was clear to see the change in him. You need to be strong and powerful in this elite league, now, to resist close contact.....to add to the skill set. These young boys have time to build on that and I'm sure the club will be well aware of the timeline required. Edited September 24, 2021 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Four times! Not yet in the Prem, but I think he'll get a chance at some point. He just needs 2 more goals in his next 70 first team appearances to beat Keinan's goalscoring rate Edited September 24, 2021 by Davkaus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, Davkaus said: He just needs 2 more goals in his next 70 first team appearances to beat Keinan's goalscoring rate Erm, I know it's the in thing to take the piss out of Keinan, but I reckon he would score goals in the B League and for under 23's? He would also have to be fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TRO Posted September 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Erm, I know it's the in thing to take the piss out of Keinan, but I reckon he would score goals in the B League and for under 23's? He would also have to be fit. I see no fun in that personally, it would give me great pleasure in him coming good and turning his career around. I am told I have a good sense of humour....but I don't take pleasure in other folks demise.....its poor sport for me. I am sure his lack of goals is a constant source of grief for him....He don't need us reminding him. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted September 24, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2021 46 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Erm, I know it's the in thing to take the piss out of Keinan, but I reckon he would score goals in the B League and for under 23's? He would also have to be fit. Archer scored his goals in the EFL (admittedly three were against Barrow), rather than in the B league or Under 23's. To compare- Davis has 9 appearances in the EFL since 2017, and has 2 goals. U23 comparison: Davis - 24 appearances (since 2016) - 6 goals (0.25 gpg) Archer- 27 appearances (since 2018) - 9 goals (0.33 gpg) Wesley has a similar number of apps in the Premier League (25) returning 5 goals. (0.20 gpg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 What is the B League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted September 24, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: What is the B League? I assumed it meant Premier League 2 (the U23's league)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 4 hours ago, HKP90 said: True, but Barry showed some of that against Liverpool, and now he's driving tractors in Ipswich (which is what I assume they do when not playing). His time will come hes only 18. Archer was only playing national league football last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Archer is ahead of Barry based purely on size, Barry is still the size of a kid. Both have a decent future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: Archer is ahead of Barry based purely on size, Barry is still the size of a kid. Both have a decent future. Based on his insta all summer and working with a PT outside of villa Barry knows it too That's the kind of thing that makes me laugh at the Barry thread and the suggestion that he might not make it, he's putting a shift in which is half the battle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Based on his insta all summer and working with a PT outside of villa Barry knows it too That's the kind of thing that makes me laugh at the Barry thread and the suggestion that he might not make it, he's putting a shift in which is half the battle All top talent scouts in there mate. If he's not tearing up league 1 at 18, then he might as well retire and get a job at JD Sports 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 The Joachim comparisons are lazy imo. The way he finds space and has that knack of getting chances reminds me of a striker I've seen play recently. Perfect understudy and in a couple of years he can take over from him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 18 hours ago, Phil Silvers said: Archer is ahead of Barry based purely on size, Barry is still the size of a kid. Both have a decent future. I still reckon Barry has a better chance of making it and being effective, as a wide forward/winger, definitely not a striker in the PL. IMO of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Very pleased he finally got his Prem debut, great moment for him 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Imagine what it means to him being on the same pitch as Ronaldo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 No way back for Davis. Finally a young home grown striker we can get excited about and is getting playing time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mic09 Posted September 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, a m ole said: Imagine what it means to him being on the same pitch as John McGinn Fixed for you 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 From Solihull Moors last season to scoring at Stamford Bridge and playing at Old Trafford this season, he's living the dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Farlz said: Very pleased he finally got his Prem debut, great moment for him The thing is he cane when we were trying to score. After his performance at Chelsea, we didn’t thought of it as a debut or whatever, but we were excited that he could add something and help getting a goal. It didn’t feel it’s his debut, unlike the day when he was coming against Newcastle but then didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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