TRO Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: Pride is exactly the word. I remember watching Gabby tear Port Vale apart in a Youth Cup game and i needed to tell everyone how fast this player was that wasnt Luke Moore. Then last season watching our Youth Cup winning team and thinking this is the future. And then realising no one cares other than yourself and a few other villa fans. I could shout to the rooftops about Ben Chrisene being the second coming of Gareth Barry. Or that Carney has just as good feet and balance as NewJackCiteh. Or that Iroegbunam is having just as much of a stunning development as Archer since joining. Or that Sil Swinkels is a massive talent at centreback yet is having to play left back because there are 2 even greater talents to play there . Part of the Pride .. literally I find it very hard to tell, with academy players.....its almost another skill set to judge them.....I think you need to be watching youth football regularly to have a good inkling. Having said that, when a kid is scoring for fun, you just can't ignore that....that really is, what I call, affecting a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said: Pride is exactly the word. I remember watching Gabby tear Port Vale apart in a Youth Cup game and i needed to tell everyone how fast this player was that wasnt Luke Moore. Then last season watching our Youth Cup winning team and thinking this is the future. And then realising no one cares other than yourself and a few other villa fans. I could shout to the rooftops about Ben Chrisene being the second coming of Gareth Barry. Or that Carney has just as good feet and balance as NewJackCiteh. Or that Iroegbunam is having just as much of a stunning development as Archer since joining. Or that Sil Swinkels is a massive talent at centreback yet is having to play left back because there are 2 even greater talents to play there . Part of the Pride .. literally One of those cbs is actually a cdm who has to play CB because of all the talent we have at cm. Edited October 6, 2021 by MotoMkali 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 He has gone from nowhere to being one of our hottest prospects in no time. Incredible stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: He has gone from nowhere to being one of our hottest prospects in no time. Incredible stuff could be self belief....its an amazing thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, useless said: Something that seems to be being left unsaid is that he's played a lot of his games out wide, I didn't see the game but I think he played out wide last night with Caleb Chukwuemeka through the middle. He's not just a goal poacher type, and when you watch him playing out wide he isn't just a pacey kick and run type winger, he has pace but also a lot of technical ability. So you're saying he's exactly like Mo Salah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 He reminds me of Mbappé more than anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 One thing on that hat-trick against Burton, Archer doesn't seem to leather it or panic, but place his shots precisely. Becoming more excited by this kid with each performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 His shooting accuracy is incredible really. Just places the ball in the corner effortlessly. He'll get a lot out of working with Watkins and Ings as well. Such an exciting talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 3 hours ago, TRO said: I find it very hard to tell, with academy players.....its almost another skill set to judge them.....I think you need to be watching youth football regularly to have a good inkling. Assume that is why there are specific youth scouts. I played with a few lads that got picked up by Leicester, West Brom and Cov when we were playing youth. Granted none of them made it but they wernt even the standouts (from my or any parents/coaches point of view). They were obviously doing somethat that was liked and that a game could be built around rather than having everything you need at that time. Archer has that knack of finding space, imagine that set him out early. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 05/10/2021 at 21:52, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Where are you all watching these games? Villa TV? Ifollow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 He needs to go out on loan in Jan, Maybe Burton will take him and actually play him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 7, 2021 Moderator Share Posted October 7, 2021 He reminds me a little Of Andy Weimann, and his pathway with this sudden burst of goals is also similar. I'm sure some will see that as a low bar, but Weimann scored 24 goals for us and went on to have a very decent career. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Six months in the Championship would be the making of this man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Some lovely finishes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 14 hours ago, useless said: He reminds me of Mbappé more than anyone. Stop it you little minx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) He has pace, he's technically very good, he can play out wide or through the middle, you'll often see him cutting inside to take a shot, is a very good finisher I think he has a lot of the same qualities as Mbappé. He's that type of forward, the kind that every transfer window it seems our fans are asking for, that is one with genuine pace that can play out wide or through the middle, but it's his tecnical ability on the ball that's surprised me the most, he's not someone who's just all pace and nothing else. As for whether he should go on loan, a lot can change in a few months so we will see come January, but as it stands he shouldn't as he's our third best striker. Edited October 7, 2021 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 15 hours ago, Nicho said: Assume that is why there are specific youth scouts. I played with a few lads that got picked up by Leicester, West Brom and Cov when we were playing youth. Granted none of them made it but they wernt even the standouts (from my or any parents/coaches point of view). They were obviously doing somethat that was liked and that a game could be built around rather than having everything you need at that time. Archer has that knack of finding space, imagine that set him out early. Honestly there's a case for training a kid as a youngster to be great at all the shitty defensive midfield stuff that every team needs rather than be another fast skilful winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 7, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted October 7, 2021 8 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: He reminds me a little Of Andy Weimann, and his pathway with this sudden burst of goals is also similar. I'm sure some will see that as a low bar, but Weimann scored 24 goals for us and went on to have a very decent career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 Kind of makes big Keinan redundant already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 18 hours ago, useless said: He reminds me of Mbappé more than anyone. To think that Mbappe mk II was playing at Solihull Moors last season and not really ripping it up is just bizarre! He looks like a real finisher. Let's hope that his development can continue and he becomes a top striker. The key now is what to do next - loan him out so he can get good game time or keep him around and in the Villa environment. He didn't really shine last year but the loan spell has obviously done him some good ... maybe made him realise how lucky he is to be at a top club and how he needs to keep showing development to stay there. Unless you know the boy really well - physically and, just as importantly, mentally, it is so hard to call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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