supermon Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 It wasn't a red, wasn't malicious nor high foot. Yellow was correct decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Played well again but should have been sent off, got very lucky there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, supermon said: It wasn't a red, wasn't malicious nor high foot. Yellow was correct decision. commentator said it wasnt a red card because he didnt stamp down which is fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Could not have argued too much if it was red, but people comparing it to the intent of Livermore is just whack... Did well today. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Never a red for me. yes he was late, fully deserved a yellow. but that’s all it was, he was late, wasn’t a lot of force. Livermore on the other hand, tried to break Jacks leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 TShould've been a red in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will87 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Pretty sure if VAR had looked at that he'd have walked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted December 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2020 I've seen them given and it looks bad when you see it repeatedly on slow mo over and over and bleeding over again. The difference between Hause and Livermore is not the contact - I'm certain both hurt - it's intent. Livermore went diving in, after the whistle, with his leg high enough to catch Jack on the calf not far below the knee. Hause was caught out by the quicker feet of Diangana. The really telling bit? Normal motion. Livermore's is far more reckless and that much was obvious. Referee could (and probably should) have given a straight red - but he was never going to do that for Hause. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myko Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 Potential red card aside; solid game and solid Prem centre back IMO. In the air very few in the league could match him. Would also look better on the ball if he was playing left side (but obviously can’t with Mings!) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, will87 said: Pretty sure if VAR had looked at that he'd have walked. Yep he got lucky there. 10 v 10 though...doubt the scoreline would've been much different as they've attacked more so we could've picked them off on counter attack like we did last 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, will87 said: Pretty sure if VAR had looked at that he'd have walked. They did look at it. And made the right decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, ozvillafan said: I've seen them given and it looks bad when you see it repeatedly on slow mo over and over and bleeding over again. The difference between Hause and Livermore is not the contact - I'm certain both hurt - it's intent. Livermore went diving in, after the whistle, with his leg high enough to catch Jack on the calf not far below the knee. Hause was caught out by the quicker feet of Diangana. The really telling bit? Normal motion. Livermore's is far more reckless and that much was obvious. Referee could (and probably should) have given a straight red - but he was never going to do that for Hause. Absolutely right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I think it was a yellow, It wasn't any malicious intent, he just came in late. Wouldn't complain too much if it was a red though, could have led to a serious injury. So, very near a red card there and that could have ruined the game for us. I thought he had a good game otherwise even if they hardly tested us. But this is why I don't want him in the team, if it's not a lap in concentration, it's a poor pass or its a stupid foul or it's like today almost a red. To me he is a liability and a new back up at CB is the most pressing area for us in the January transfer window imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) under rated....put a good shift in. Edited December 21, 2020 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Anyway I'm pleased he's come in and contributed to two clean sheets. Still think he's only effective against a couple of prem teams and we've played two of them but it all comes in a season. Seemed to be this idea forming in last few months we have to continually play the same 11 to near death by March so nice likes of Hause, AEM and Nakamba have all started last few days and got us clean sheets and points. El Ghazi aswell for the attacking side. Think people being missed is it's much easier to bring in squad players to a well drilled team where everyone is confident in their roles. We simply didn't have that for pretty much the whole of last season bar the final few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Thug said: Never a red for me. yes he was late, fully deserved a yellow. but that’s all it was, he was late, wasn’t a lot of force. Livermore on the other hand, tried to break Jacks leg. It was a clumsy challenge but the literal wording of the rules is a clumsy challenge is a bookable offence if it is dangerous/reckless or with the intent to injure then it is a red. Hauses was neither rof those things he went in and caught a player it happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I think looking back at his tackle there should be an orange card. However with the way officiating is they're just going to muddy the waters way more than they do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Lots of people on here seem to hate on Hause. I don’t really get it. He always looks solid defensively. He is just lacking on the ball. As a 3rd choice defender he is a useful option. Quick, strong, imperious in the air. Good in the tackle also. He seems to be moving the ball quicker and keep it simpler in possession in the last two games and has done much wrong. People saying he should've been sent off are wrong. Mings needless yellow I found more offensive than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted December 21, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 21, 2020 the ref that works for BT clarified it. with livermore there was a lunging action which is deemed an attempt to injure the player. with hause, he sort of stood on his foot but there wasn't a downward action to cause injury. the ref gave a yellow, but it was probably one of those where whichever card was given the decision wouldn't have been overturned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 That was as yellow as it gets, he tried to clear the ball, very poorly so, and the Tesco's shin ended up under Hause's foot, and the in the momentum and dynamic of the failed clearence his foot sunk into his ankle. Painful, but it wasn't fouls play, it wasn't violent conduct, it was just a poor attempt at clearing the ball. A red would have been very harsh. Credit, for once, to var, for getting this right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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