Rodders Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Thats quite a cull then i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Big big cull, but I think it is the right approach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted July 22, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 22, 2017 When you see a stadium in China full of Chinese football fans wearing Chelsea and Arsenal shirts it makes you realise just how unrealistic the Dr's ambitions for Villa in China are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 hours ago, TrentVilla said: When you see a stadium in China full of Chinese football fans wearing Chelsea and Arsenal shirts it makes you realise just how unrealistic the Dr's ambitions for Villa in China are. Fans are fickle. Tottenham suddenly have lots of fans in China as they finish top 2 a few times. Will take a while but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted July 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 hours ago, TrentVilla said: When you see a stadium in China full of Chinese football fans wearing Chelsea and Arsenal shirts it makes you realise just how unrealistic the Dr's ambitions for Villa in China are. I'm not sure I completely agree. Even Spurs shirts started appeared in sports shop windows in New York around the time they were in the champions league under Harry and had Bale in the side. I would argue you can be one champions league qualification and one fantastic player away from being recognizable in what is a very fickle market-place. Remember when Messi was tweeting about Ashley Young? (I think it was a game against West Ham.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jareth Posted July 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2017 You can probably swap Chinese fans wearing arse and chelski shirts for any fan in this country not from Laaandon. People who are not blessed with having been born into a glorious club like the villa, will otherwise support success. The good Dr believes he can crack it, so far he has shown nothing that makes me doubt he won't. He'll get there. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 7 hours ago, TrentVilla said: When you see a stadium in China full of Chinese football fans wearing Chelsea and Arsenal shirts it makes you realise just how unrealistic the Dr's ambitions for Villa in China are. But aren't Chelsea and Arsenal playing so you'd expect their fans to turn up. Lets also not the forget the size of the population in China. Get back in the Premier League and add a few Chinese stars to the team and you are soon one of the most supported teams in the country. They have no allegiance to teams in england. Fans will switch or youngsters will support different teams to parents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Chelsea paid their way to that level. Any team is a russian, sheik or hopefully chinese owner away from doing the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) Stadiums full of Chelsea shirts are a drop in the ocean there though, a country with a population of 2 billion (actual pop 1.3 billion but worldwide there are around 2 billion Chinese people). Even if we can attract a tiny percentage of the population to support Villa it will massively boost revenue. 0.01% of the population would be 20,000,000 new fans... if they all click on the website/YouTube/weibo page, then that's a lot of clicks. Even just starting with those kids football lessons and a few tv adverts, we could be the next big thing. Edited July 23, 2017 by alreadyexists 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I can tell you from first hand experience that a lot of East Asian fans are not like English ones, for example. There's no real stigma if you change teams, there's nothing wrong with liking multiple teams from the same country and a lot of shirts are fakes anyway. You market well and you'll make some money there, for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Popularity in the Asian markets will only happen if we are successful, conversely we will not become successful because have more exposure in Asia. I do wonder what Tony makes of the ridiculous sums of money being spent by Premier league teams this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 8 hours ago, DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth said: Popularity in the Asian markets will only happen if we are successful, conversely we will not become successful because have more exposure in Asia. I do wonder what Tony makes of the ridiculous sums of money being spent by Premier league teams this summer. City have spent around £120m on 3 defenders in the last week and Everton have spent £100m plus and probably will still finish 7th . getting into the top 6 is harder than ever but as Leicester showed it can be done - I'd be happy to see us in mid table for a couple of years and build from there - but first we need to get there and this squad is far and away good enough to get us up - if we fail there can be no excuse . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 His home currency over the last year has made his purchasing power in the UK far greater. We need to get the dirty work of getting promoted done first. I fully expect come January if we are up there at the top end that we will buy the main competitors best players to disrupt them and just pay off certain wage earners in our squad to try and improve our chances further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 25, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 25, 2017 It's a matter of time till someone does a Villa but even more spectacularly. Someone will spend £200m on players who all turn out to be useless and get relegated with a £500m a year wage bill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 On 24/07/2017 at 08:35, Eastie said: City have spent around £120m on 3 defenders in the last week and Everton have spent £100m plus and probably will still finish 7th . getting into the top 6 is harder than ever but as Leicester showed it can be done - I'd be happy to see us in mid table for a couple of years and build from there - but first we need to get there and this squad is far and away good enough to get us up - if we fail there can be no excuse . Really hits home just how amazing that Leicester title win was. They cruised it too. Absolutely phenomenal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 13 hours ago, sidcow said: It's a matter of time till someone does a Villa but even more spectacularly. Someone will spend £200m on players who all turn out to be useless and get relegated with a £500m a year wage bill. Until we've truly righted this ship I am not putting it past Villa to do a Villa but even more spectacularly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaveAV1 Posted July 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2017 58 minutes ago, Daweii said: Until we've truly righted this ship I am not putting it past Villa to do a Villa but even more spectacularly. Doing a Villa doesn't have to be a negative thing. The great thing about the Villa is, that it's always a roller coaster and we never know what's coming next. A friend of mine up in Scotland took his young son, about 9 I think, to the European Cup Final last year in Barcelona. While they were there they visited the supporters village and there was a walk of fame, with all the past winners represented. His son spotted us and said, "Aston Villa won The European Cup?", yes replied Chris, they beat Bayern Munich in the final. His son was amazed. That sums up The Villa, amazing highs and terrible lows but rarely boring. Buckle up because when we come out of the latest low it could be one hell of a ride. We're not Stoke or The Boggies, it's generally death or glory for us and I wouldn't want it any different. Well perhaps a tad more glory might be acceptable! Come on!!!!!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 I saw a picture of the doc on a train advert with his family. I think it was advertising sea world or something. I thought I had taken a photo but when I checked my phone it wasn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 On 24/07/2017 at 08:35, Eastie said: City have spent around £120m on 3 defenders in the last week and Everton have spent £100m plus and probably will still finish 7th . getting into the top 6 is harder than ever but as Leicester showed it can be done - I'd be happy to see us in mid table for a couple of years and build from there - but first we need to get there and this squad is far and away good enough to get us up - if we fail there can be no excuse . City have to pay double any transfer. It's the Arab tax.PSG have to pay it too. Any other club would have spent 60m on those 3 players. Evertons net spend isn't so high because of Lukaku sale. I see your point though. Crazy fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted July 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) On 7/12/2017 at 21:11, briny_ear said: He'll need to to do more than silly tweets to preside over Villa success. He will need to come up with a strategic plan for the club. As yet, I can't say I've seen this. Investment in the squad, a refreshed and modernised management structure top to bottom, a greater connection with the fanbase, connections being made with business and council, professional PR and exciting social media output. Alleged improvements to the matchday experience, though we will only begin to really see that this season. There are all sorts of little things going on beneath the surface that set the tone, what else do you want an owner to do? All the talk of theme parks and what not are clearly long term ambitions, that kind of stuff doesn't happen overnight. It's not just silly tweets, though he's bloody good at that IMO. If you're not seeing it you're not looking hard enough. Edited July 26, 2017 by dont_do_it_doug. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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