Zatman Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I like Davis effort and attributes but being honest he will never score a goal in thr Premier League. I would love to be wrong but more chance of me grabbing a top flight goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, KentVillan said: I don’t think it’s that hard to understand. Smith plays 1 striker so he needs 3 strikers in his squad. Our aim this season was a mid table finish, and he’s signed players good enough to achieve that (even if Watkins gets injured). We don't have 3 strikers in the squad, we have 2 plus maybe a hope that Traore could do a job there. If Watkins got injured, we would be much weaker. I think it would be hard for us not to finish mid-table at this point (I suppose it depends exactly how 'mid-table' is defined) but our results would take a nose-dive and we would be living off our good start to the season (IMO of course). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Needs to go out on loan. I really like the lad and think he’s a lot better than the stick he gets but he just isn’t going to get minutes here and a productive spell elsewhere could be the kickstart he hopefully needs. Traore can also play ST and hopefully Wesley will be returning in the next month or so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Ken McNaughts Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) Really can’t see any reason for Davis to get any stick last night. Only made one error – a miscontrol that fell to a Villa player anyway. Apart from that he made an intelligent run to find space and put a tricky header wide, held off Bailly and saw his cross blocked for a corner, then outmuscled Maguire and reacted fastest to the ball dropping between them (one touch control, right foot to left foot, low hard shot, incredible block by Bailly). In fact, if Davis had been a bit LESS sharp with that final one we could easily have had a penalty as Maguire swung his boot wildly through the airspace where Keinan had already nicked the ball away. If anything, and not for the first time, I think the change of putting Davis down the middle and Watkins out wide could be made sooner when we are trailing and need to try something different. Edited January 2, 2021 by Five Ken McNaughts 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 We need better to move on FKM . I like his attitude, but hes like Connor, not good enough at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Thought that was his big moment in the last few seconds of the game yesterday. I just can’t stand the thought of letting him go and him becoming the player many of us think he can become but elsewhere. I would start him in the cup against Liverpool, give Watkins a rest and perhaps a little reminder that his place in the team is not guaranteed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 2, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Thought that was his big moment in the last few seconds of the game yesterday. I just can’t stand the thought of letting him go and him becoming the player many of us think he can become but elsewhere. I would start him in the cup against Liverpool, give Watkins a rest and perhaps a little reminder that his place in the team is not guaranteed. Genuine question, what player is it you think he can become? Because to me he just isn’t a goal scorer at this level and I can’t see that changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: Genuine question, what player is it you think he can become? Because to me he just isn’t a goal scorer at this level and I can’t see that changing. I think he can be a useful 5-10 goals a season rotational player at PL level, perhaps more if he really finds his confidence. He’s shown bags of ability in glimpses, on his debut he was literally unplayable against Norwich, ran their defence ragged, admittedly at championship level of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I think if we plan to keep him then he needs a season of regular football to see what he can do. He is not going to get that at Villa and isn’t really going to be able to show what he can do with 10 minute cameos when we are chasing a game. I personalise don’t think he will ever be good enough for us or this league and will end up being a championship player. But I get why many think he has what he takes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 2, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 2, 2021 Scores starting next game in the cup and again off the bench vs Tottenham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Not bothered about the cup games as we still stand a chance of making Europa so he can play in them. I just don’t rate him though as many others do here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 2, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I think he can be a useful 5-10 goals a season rotational player at PL level, perhaps more if he really finds his confidence. He’s shown bags of ability in glimpses, on his debut he was literally unplayable against Norwich, ran their defence ragged, admittedly at championship level of course. Hold up link up play is decent but just don’t see anything to make me think he can score those goals at this level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 11 hours ago, penguin said: Needs to go out on loan. I really like the lad and think he’s a lot better than the stick he gets but he just isn’t going to get minutes here and a productive spell elsewhere could be the kickstart he hopefully needs. Traore can also play ST and hopefully Wesley will be returning in the next month or so. Pretty much my sentiments as well. But would much prefer bringing in a proper striker to have the flexibility to send him on a loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Needs to go on loan to the Championship to get a consistent run under his belt. I don't think he has enough to his game to be a PL goalscorer, but hope he proves me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: I think he can be a useful 5-10 goals a season rotational player at PL level, perhaps more if he really finds his confidence. He’s shown bags of ability in glimpses, on his debut he was literally unplayable against Norwich, ran their defence ragged, admittedly at championship level of course. People keep saying 5-10 goals but where is this coming from? Honestly I know I’m biased but he never looks like scoring and more importantly doesn’t actually score but suddenly he’s going to score. Even more bizarre that as rotational player as you mention, let’s say 50% of PL games which is 19 games, means at 9 or 10 goals......so a 1 in 2 ratio scoring. It makes no sense in comparison to reality or history. In 2,250 minutes of his career in Championship and PL league football he has scored 2 goals and they were both in the Championship. He turns 23 next month, he’s not a kid anymore. Edited January 2, 2021 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 He needs to prove himself at Championship level IMO. We need a better option to put pressure on Watkins and offer an alternative to Watkins and I'm not convinced this lad is it although, obviously, I hope he becomes a goal machine! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Has to get game time out on loan. You can't really judge him on 10-15 minute run outs. We need to bring in another forward in Jan and send him on loan to a championship club. It's a bit frustrating to watch Davies as he has all the attributes for a big forward, apart from goal scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 16 hours ago, KentVillan said: I don’t think it’s that hard to understand. Smith plays 1 striker so he needs 3 strikers in his squad. Our aim this season was a mid table finish, and he’s signed players good enough to achieve that (even if Watkins gets injured). Next summer we’ll no doubt add some talent and Davis will be moved on. I don’t really like the stick Davis gets though. I think he’ll be a useful player at Championship level (or even lower half PL) with a manager who plays a front 2. That chance today was well defended and plenty of strikers would have done f all with it. quite right too.....it was well blocked.....but it also higlights the quickness of thought as this level, you have to be really sharp in the thinking dep't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Hold up link up play is decent but just don’t see anything to make me think he can score those goals at this level. What I'd give for his scoring record to be like Shane Long. Then that link up hold up is useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, nick76 said: People keep saying 5-10 goals but where is this coming from? Honestly I know I’m biased but he never looks like scoring and more importantly doesn’t actually score but suddenly he’s going to score. Even more bizarre that as rotational player as you mention, let’s say 50% of PL games which is 19 games, means at 9 or 10 goals......so a 1 in 2 ratio scoring. It makes no sense in comparison to reality or history. In 2,250 minutes of his career in Championship and PL league football he has scored 2 goals and they were both in the Championship. He turns 23 next month, he’s not a kid anymore. I like Keinan, but I don't think he will fit in with what we are planning and how we are playing.....He has presence and a target, but its not enough. We need a prolific scorer, one who is sharp in the box, a quick thinker and quick mover, one who can take and give out the physical rigours of the game.....an Ings or Vardy type.....even our own Dean Saunders. Edited January 2, 2021 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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