Manchester United

[HanoiVillan]

4 hours ago, The Fun Factory said:

I can't believe people thought they are were geniune title contenders. OGS is and has always been out of his depth. Managing in Norway and getting Cardiff relegated is not really a resume to manage United. He got the job as he was a good player for them.Chelsea did that with fat frank and then sacked him off and got a proper manager in.

 

4 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said:

It’s kinda abstract and difficult to articulate (so whether it’s a fair comment is another matter), but when I see Klopp, Pep, Tuchel, actually not just those managers but a lot of the ones outside of the top six, I see a sort of resolve. That they’re here to win, they have confidence in themselves to get a result. They may well be a dick about it, but there’s a confidence there.

I never really pick up a similar vibe from Ole. I don’t think he’s terrible, he just has the air of someone who’s somehow been allowed to stay up late with the grown ups and he’s anxious about being rumbled.

Agreed with the above; the problem they've got is that Fat Frank made it easy for Chelsea to sack him and go and get a proper manager. By contrast, OGS keeps doing *well enough* that sacking him would be difficult to justify and unpopular with a lot of their fans, but not, you know, *actually that well*. Or actually that well given the quality of players in the squad anyway.

I'm just not sure that the very best players really respect him enough, enough of the time. Like Pogba was decent today, and sometimes he's great, but he's always better for France because he actually respects the manager. If you're a really top player, would you choose to go there to be managed by him in preference to being managed by Guardiola, Tuchel or Klopp? I suppose Ronaldo literally did make that choice, but I'm not sure he would have done if he hadn't already played there.

[NoelVilla]

Of all the clips of Martinez and the penalty I do like the fact that Cavani found what Martinez did funny.

[Mark Albrighton]

7 hours ago, HanoiVillan said:

 

Agreed with the above; the problem they've got is that Fat Frank made it easy for Chelsea to sack him and go and get a proper manager. By contrast, OGS keeps doing *well enough* that sacking him would be difficult to justify and unpopular with a lot of their fans, but not, you know, *actually that well*. Or actually that well given the quality of players in the squad anyway.

I'm just not sure that the very best players really respect him enough, enough of the time. Like Pogba was decent today, and sometimes he's great, but he's always better for France because he actually respects the manager. If you're a really top player, would you choose to go there to be managed by him in preference to being managed by Guardiola, Tuchel or Klopp? I suppose Ronaldo literally did make that choice, but I'm not sure he would have done if he hadn't already played there.

Yes, it is just “well enough” isn’t it? He’s like a good stop gap appointment until they find the manager they actually need.  

And whether accurate or not, I can completely believe someone like Ronaldo thinking to himself (not completely unjustly) that he knows better.

[Phil Silvers]

11 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said:

It’s kinda abstract and difficult to articulate (so whether it’s a fair comment is another matter), but when I see Klopp, Pep, Tuchel, actually not just those managers but a lot of the ones outside of the top six, I see a sort of resolve. That they’re here to win, they have confidence in themselves to get a result. They may well be a dick about it, but there’s a confidence there.

I never really pick up a similar vibe from Ole. I don’t think he’s terrible, he just has the air of someone who’s somehow been allowed to stay up late with the grown ups and he’s anxious about being rumbled.

Most things are if you set out to make them so, you sure do make things sound purdy mister.

You are absolutely right about Ole, he was in the right place at the right time and much like our England manager, he has a squad that papers over the cracks.

I really hope he does well enough to make it difficult to replace him, the longer he is there the better, we have a feint pipe dream of catching one of the big 4.

[SuperTed]

38 minutes ago, NoelVilla said:

Of all the clips of Martinez and the penalty I do like the fact that Cavani found what Martinez did funny.

I wonder whether the South American players just know how much of a sh*thouse he is

[Jono62]

Wonder if the ball is still travelling? 

[gordy]

Utd fans always ask oh why do you hate us? Why do people always have a go at us.

This is why, you were out played, out manouvered and deservedly beaten.

Sky sports said during the week after the rant OGS went on that they would get a penalty and they did and bottled it. Most managers would say "they played well, we didnt produce and fair play to them".

Not Utd no, thier goal was offside, they ruined our penalty withtheir moaning, we should get another one. Thats why people hate them the arrogance.

[sne]

I have tons of friends who are Man U fans, among them my boss who's not afraid to give some friendly jabs when it comes to the PL, all in good sport thou. This is a very good day  

Man U fans not super happy about Solskjaer and his McFred midfield pairing. Seriously, how can a club like them play a pairing like that after spending that much money? 

[bannedfromHandV]

Saw my United supporting mate last night and he was surprisingly gracious, accepted we deserved to win.

I’m still in shock.

[Davkaus]

1 hour ago, sne said:

Man U fans not super happy about Solskjaer and his McFred midfield pairing. Seriously, how can a club like them play a pairing like that after spending that much money? 

3 names I wouldn't want at Villa.

That's the thing about Soalskaer, same as the Frank experiment. These are managers who would not get any other top job. If Solskjaer gets sacked, he's not being picked up by Man City or Chelsea. Not even Spurs or Arsenal. If he got another PL job at all, it'd be right down at the bottom end.

Clubs that invest a billion pounds over a few years should surely be appointing managers that are the envy of clubs around them, or at least clubs below them, not some rookie that used to wear their shirt. It's laughably small-time thinking.

One thing I will say for Ole is he hasn't failed as much as I thought he would, so fair play, I guess. You'd still be gutted if he was the next Villa manager though, wouldn't you?

[Nigel]

16 hours ago, brummybloke said:

Ogs is embarrassing himself with his rants. Offside from a corner where the ball was directly headed in ?  Players surrounding the ref is unsporting ? Man ure have been doing that ever since Keane and Ince, cheeky mofo.

Unsporting ? Yeah because pogbas 3 dives per game in and around the penalty area are sporting ? Or the bias man use have had the luxury of for 30 years in the English game ? 

 

Yep, funny enough he wasn't so worried about unsporting behaviour when Fernando's dived for their penalty few games back....or when pogba openly told one of their young forwards to dive more to get a penalty.

It must be different for man utd!

[It's Your Round]

Man U are and have always been hypocritical scumbags. 

[a m ole]

I wonder if Ole actually realises it could have been 3-0 before Maguire should have been sent off relatively early in the game and he’s deflecting, or if he’s actually that crazy to think they deserved something from the game and Mike **** Dean was on our side?

Edited September 26, 2021 by a m ole

[El Zen]

1 minute ago, a m ole said:

I wonder if Ole actually realises it could have been 3-0 before Maguire should have been sent off relatively early in the game and he’s deflecting, or if he’s actually that crazy to think they deserved something from the game and Mike **** Dean was on our side?

He’s a spineless coward who will always deflect blame. He probably also thinks he’s playing the Sir Alex media game, but he really doesn’t have the manegerial pedigree to pull that off (KW.gif)

[HongKongVillan]

For years Kevin Keegan got ridiculed for his live rant on TV and the media were all laughing at him as if he had "lost it". To me, OGS comments re offside and Peno and behaviour after the loss was probably worse.

[Villa_Vids]

1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said:

Saw my United supporting mate last night and he was surprisingly gracious, accepted we deserved to win.

I’m still in shock.

Putting a brave face on  He will be hurting deep inside.

[The Fun Factory]

13 hours ago, Don_Simon said:

They are crying out for a ball carrying, hustling, can pick a pass and score a goal midfielder. 

SJM'S going nowhere you bastards.

Lets face it if next summer they come in with a bid over 60 million we will open up our  legs and take the offer.

McGinn is playing better without Grealish as he is going back to more of his natural free role rather than a out  and out DM. 

Reminds me a bit of when Barry left and Milner became the main man for a season before also being sold.

[Phil Silvers]

 

[dudevillaisnice]

The super league marlakey helped him this summer, took the heat off him and was directly at the board instead. They bought Ronaldo in and invested heavily this summer (Varane etc) and it’s now pressure on him again… 

[Tomaszk]

Utd stink.

Ole stinks.

I love him being at Utd. It's holding a superpower down very nicely.

Popular with some Utd fans because he panders to them. Like that game right there.

Ref fault, offside, Villa cheating wah wah wah.

If he tells the team that, which he probably does, that'll be why they're so crap.

Flip today round, what would Smith say? He'd say we were second best and didn't deserve to win. He was disappointed with a lot of our game.