bobzy Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Okonokos said: This brings me back to this that I posted on here a few weeks ago. That's every player in Europe's top five leagues and he's quite literally head and shoulders above. "Fouls won" is a pretty weird metric, though. It's great he wins us so many free kicks, but when you're discussing players and how good are they, I'm basically never going "oh, but <x> - the way he wins free kicks is just superb". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, bobzy said: "Fouls won" is a pretty weird metric, though. It's great he wins us so many free kicks, but when you're discussing players and how good are they, I'm basically never going "oh, but <x> - the way he wins free kicks is just superb". That means he's taking people on and they can't get the ball off him. To stop him you have to chop him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Just now, bobzy said: "Fouls won" is a pretty weird metric, though. It's great he wins us so many free kicks, but when you're discussing players and how good are they, I'm basically never going "oh, but <x> - the way he wins free kicks is just superb". I think that stat isn't necessarily about "winning fouls". It's more about fouling him is the only way you can stop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) I sometimes wonder whether he’ll continue to develop. He’s nailed the ball control and passing, he’s improved his strength and pace. If he could perfect his shooting and add direct free kick goals to his game, he’d be unstoppable. C Ronaldo improved continuously as he got older, becoming a more complete player. I think Jack can do the same. Edited January 31, 2021 by It's Your Round Missing word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: He was good in the championship but it was when he had that freak pre season injury and bulked up where he then started to shine even more. He then had the athleticism to match his technical ability. That athleticism just seems to continue to improve. I think this is what has brought him to the next level. He is stronger, and faster, as well as improved his composure, more decisive. Once he has set pieces in is locker its over. Edited January 31, 2021 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Definitely the best player in the league now. We need to build an elite team, a dynasty around him to make sure we make the most of it and also keep him happy and out of the clutches of rocket polishers like Man Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 38 years a fan (now 43) remember the likes of Sid, God, Platty, Yorke - all class players in their own right. But Jack tops all these. Just an absolute joy to watch. Carries on like this and he definitely should be POTY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted January 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mazrim said: Definitely the best player in the league now. We need to build an elite team, a dynasty around him to make sure we make the most of it and also keep him happy and out of the clutches of rocket polishers like Man Utd. 'Definitely' the best player is stretching things a bit! How would you even judge something like that? I know everyone will have their answer but its down to subjectivity. The biggest point is how important he is to each team, and to our team he is simply irreplaceable; But this is different to what another team may see. IMO what cant be disputed is he is in the conversation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nigel said: 'Definitely' the best player is stretching things a bit! How would you even judge something like that? I know everyone will have their answer but its down to subjectivity. The biggest point is how important he is to each team, and to our team he is simply irreplaceable; But this is different to what another team may see. IMO what cant be disputed is he is in the conversation. Yeah, I hear you. It's all subjective. I judge it on consistency, vision, effectiveness, physicality and above all, just raw talent. I have to say Jack is currently number 1 in my book considering that criteria, but its just my opinion, my criteria. Would I swap any other PL player for him? No. Therefore I have to conclude he is the MVP, if you like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Keyblade said: 20 assists is a PL record. He'd be doing amazing if he could equal that. I'm more interested to see if he can get his goals into double figures. He's at 6. It took him 10 games to go from 5 to 6 so hopefully the next one isn't that long a wait. Currently created 13 big chances. Which should mean he is on 10-11 assists. (he is on 11 according to transfermarkt right now as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 46 minutes ago, Mazrim said: Definitely the best player in the league now. We need to build an elite team, a dynasty around him to make sure we make the most of it and also keep him happy and out of the clutches of rocket polishers like Man Utd. Taking our claret and blue glasses off, Foden is absolute quality and much younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Sulberto21 said: That means he's taking people on and they can't get the ball off him. To stop him you have to chop him. exactly, I cant stand that term, he didn't win a foul (well a few maybe), the player has been fouled, should be most fouled player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Taking our claret and blue glasses off, Foden is absolute quality and much younger. Jack was in a crap team at his age, debatable point but I bet players advance their ability much faster when surrounded by the players he is. Agree though, he is a player, very good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, MaVilla said: He's not the first Villa player to reach 9 assists in a season, pretty sure Ashley young got 11 or something at some point. Sorry yes, I was meant to say since Young Edited January 31, 2021 by mikeyp102 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colhint Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Anyway the England team should be Keeper Some defenders 1 DM Some tiki takis Jack and Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 He is the homegrown cheatcode. The way he’s developed is beyond anything we ever could have imagined. Finds new levels every single game. Never ever leave Jack. We can all get to the pinnacle together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Taking our claret and blue glasses off, Foden is absolute quality and much younger. Probably where you lost most people... Edited January 31, 2021 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Taking our claret and blue glasses off, Foden is absolute quality and much younger. Yep wouldn't disagree, he's got a better coach too But at the same time would say foden is the next Gerrard, lampard or Scholes, we've seen players of his ilk before, great player and that is the level of quality he will achieve Jack isn't like those players though, that run vs Burnley the run vs Leeds earlier in the season, the way he walked past romeu in last night's game... Even with the gazza link, a player that I only really caught the tail end of, I genuinely haven't seen an English player do the things grealish can do, play in that style, he's not those 3 greats, he's not foden, he's not Mount or maddison or Alli, he plays with a natural ability that sets him apart Maverick is the best description of I've seen of him I think 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 4 hours ago, MotoMkali said: Currently created 13 big chances. Which should mean he is on 10-11 assists. (he is on 11 according to transfermarkt right now as well) He has 9 in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Jack walks into the Premier League team of the season. I think at the moment he’s on the shortlist for player of the year too, at the half way point it’s probably between him, Kane, Son & De Bruyne. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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