Dave-R Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, turvontour said: It's not a hammering that would get him sacked. A 1 nil defeat tonight and we go out in round of 16s having scored 2 goals in 4 games. If that doesnt get you sacked given our attacking options, then I dont know what can. There'd be a big excuse for him no doubt and full backing still thrown behind him, I feel he's our England manager for the foreseeable future. Edited June 29, 2021 by Dave-R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Started 6 games for England. MOTM in 4 of the games, an assist in the other two games. Is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Like I say, I think he should be starting. I just don’t think his all round effort levels in the last game were great, which is why he probably won’t start this game. You’ve got to remember, Grealish is the absolute antithesis of Southgate-ball. He’s a maverick, a showman, he’s unpredictable. Southgate hates everything about this. He prefers hard working players who aren’t allowed to stray from their set positions and who have a specific set of instructions each match. You can see it with the way Foden and Grealish play for England. They don’t look anything like the players they do for their league clubs. I remember listening to a podcast once with Lee Hendrie and he said Southgate hated him at the Villa because he saw him as a party boy, a roy of the rovers type who didn’t train hard and wasn’t dedicated. I don’t think it’s any coincidence that Southgate dislikes Jack because he has that image in the media too. The good looking boy about town. Grealish can count himself extremely lucky that the England manager happens to be this failed fraud just at the time he enters his prime. It’s a travesty to football really. I think his effort in the first half was fine and obviously dropped off in the second. The main problem is that Jack was often in acres of space in the middle and his team mates weren't always trying to get the ball to him. This made him look ineffective at times but it was more a failure of the system or individual players around him. The team isnt built around "get the ball to Jack" unfortunately. He definitely could have been more pro active though in the second half but maybe this is to do with lack of experience for England. In hindsight I'm sure he's thinking I should have demanded the ball more or just gone after it when his team mates were fannying around doing nothing. I reckon Jack will be even better should he get another chance! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 25 minutes ago, ender4 said: Started 6 games for England. MOTM in 4 of the games, an assist in the other two games. Is that right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 No Grealish in the leaked lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 If tonight’s game is turgid from the start I hope the England fans get on Southgates back early on and make it known this anti-football is not what we want to be known for. Oh and I hope there’s chants for Grealish from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Saka starting. Jack on bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, est1874 said: Saka starting. Jack on bench. Predictable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 With that bench he'll be lucky to get 5 mins as we crash out He'll then also get criticised for not being able to do anything in those 5 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ender4 said: Started 6 games for England. MOTM in 4 of the games, an assist in the other two games. Is that right? Yes but he made zero goal line clearances and no crunching defensive tackles. His goal kicks were nonexistent as were his long balls out of defence. As for running as fast as possible like a headless chicken, don’t get me started. Until he gets this running with the ball, driving forward, drawing fouls and setting up goals malarkey out of his game, I think you’ll find he won’t impress our wonderful national manager. Buck up your ideas young man and while you’re at it get a proper haircut like your boss. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, est1874 said: Saka starting. Jack on bench. I've got no problem with Saka starting. Really, really like him as a player Edited June 29, 2021 by villalad21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 If you’re going to play with wingbacks Saka has to be one of the first names on the team sheet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Three hours before the last game the leaked line up said he wasn’t playing, two hours before it said he was. Pinch of salt until we see the actual lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I've got no problem with Saka starting. Really, really like him as a player Kane Sterling Jack. Mount. Saka Phillips Shaw. Maguire Stones. James Pickford No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I've got no problem with Saka starting. Really, really like him as a player I agree. The best half of football we've played was the last game against the Czechs. Only game for me that we looked like a proper side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 With all the looking into the Twitter tea-leaves guff. I was sure that I had read that story before.... Ah yes, here it is: Manchester United fans will love what Jack Grealish tweeted about the club Man Utd supporters have been digging up some of Jack Grealish's old tweets and they are certainly interesting ahead of the summer transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, GENTLEMAN said: With all the looking into the Twitter tea-leaves guff. I was sure that I had read that story before.... Ah yes, here it is: Manchester United fans will love what Jack Grealish tweeted about the club Man Utd supporters have been digging up some of Jack Grealish's old tweets and they are certainly interesting ahead of the summer transfer window. On Blue Moon someone posted he was a boyhood United fan before he joined Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cizzler Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, LondonLax said: If you’re going to play with wingbacks Saka has to be one of the first names on the team sheet. I doubt he will he playing Saka wing back. In the leaked line-up, it's 5 at the back. 2 defensive mids. Then a front three of Kane, Sterling and Saka. We might shithouse a win. The German team is mediocre. But for all the wealth of attacking talent on offer, it's incredible that Southgate chooses to play like this. He's worse than Pulis. I haven't seen a manager ever have attacking talent this good, and choose to play such a negative, turgid brand of football. He's a joke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: On Blue Moon someone posted he was a boyhood United fan before he joined Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cizzler said: I doubt he will he playing Saka wing back. In the leaked line-up, it's 5 at the back. 2 defensive mids. Then a front three of Kane, Sterling and Saka. We might shithouse a win. The German team is mediocre. But for all the wealth of attacking talent on offer, it's incredible that Southgate chooses to play like this. He's worse than Pulis. I haven't seen a manager ever have attacking talent this good, and choose to play such a negative, turgid brand of football. He's a joke He's scared of a big defeat, he's happy if he gets away with a 1-0 loss because the many friendlies against poor opposition will make him look good over a period of time, hence his idiot superiors are happy for him to carry on regardless. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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