Keyblade Posted September 13 Posted September 13 22 hours ago, Zatman said: Its 3 games into the club season, the players arent going to go flat out when league and Champions League coming up Grealish is probably the only England player who wont start regularly so could go full blast I must have missed when Angel Gomes, Antony Gordon and Ezri Konsa were England stalwarts.
Tom13 Posted September 13 Posted September 13 Still top class, you don't lose your ability overnight. Insane how wasted he was under GS
Zatman Posted September 14 Posted September 14 2 hours ago, Tom13 said: Still top class, you don't lose your ability overnight. Insane how wasted he was under GS He has played for Man City for three/four seasons..is GS also managing them 1
Tom13 Posted September 14 Posted September 14 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Zatman said: He has played for Man City for three/four seasons..is GS also managing them And he's still contributing to a top side, not sure what your point is? He's never going to be the type of player to put up big numbers, but he gives you so much. Just a top player. Edited September 14 by Tom13 1
Zatman Posted September 14 Posted September 14 9 hours ago, Tom13 said: And he's still contributing to a top side, not sure what your point is? He's never going to be the type of player to put up big numbers, but he gives you so much. Just a top player. Well for City he gets the ball and plays it sideways and backwards. Arguably more negative than Southgate had him playing
Tom13 Posted September 14 Posted September 14 13 minutes ago, Zatman said: Well for City he gets the ball and plays it sideways and backwards. Arguably more negative than Southgate had him playing Southgate didn't have him playing, that was worse.
villa4europe Posted September 14 Posted September 14 28 minutes ago, Zatman said: Well for City he gets the ball and plays it sideways and backwards. Arguably more negative than Southgate had him playing Kind of But at the same time what he also does is walk forward with the ball 10 yards pushing the line deeper which is seemingly what pep wants, according to blue moon city create more and play better with him in the team, not that they struggle either way The difference for us was that he ran with it
Lichfield Dean Posted September 14 VT Supporter Posted September 14 Jack giving a brilliant interview yet again. "Yeah, I don't actually know what happened, um...."
ThunderPower_14 Posted September 15 Posted September 15 Looked like he had some freedom to actually run at a defence a bit and play to his strengths, and a manager who rates him and likes what he brings to the table. He's played for Pep who is a very strong system manager who discourages individual flair for perfect team play. Southgate was just super negative. Neither suited Jack at all. The idea that he's lost ability or is finished is silly. He's just played for teams that have discouraged his greatest strengths. If he leaves City he'll shine in a system that plays to his strengths. I doubt we'd ever see him back here, but I think he'd absolutely thrive under Emery. That sort of drive towards goal, interplay with his teammates, vision, composure around the box and perfectly weighted passes are exactly how Emery likes his players to play.
Keyblade Posted September 15 Posted September 15 He looked good against Brentford. His touch and weight of pass is still top notch, that alone can get you very far 1
turvontour Posted October 3 Posted October 3 Was in the Social pre match last night and saw the pictures of him from when he was a kid being in there pre game. It's funny isn't, he absolutely made the right decision in terms of winning as many medals as he can but it would have been incredible for him to be a part of those sort of matches like last night. He must have been aware of the planned trajectory of the club, but I suppose he couldn't have known for sure or the speed of it. Beating Bayern Munich with Villa in the champions league must be so different to beating Bayern Munich with Man City, from a Villa fan perspective. 2
VillaJ100 Posted October 3 Posted October 3 5 hours ago, turvontour said: Was in the Social pre match last night and saw the pictures of him from when he was a kid being in there pre game. It's funny isn't, he absolutely made the right decision in terms of winning as many medals as he can but it would have been incredible for him to be a part of those sort of matches like last night. He must have been aware of the planned trajectory of the club, but I suppose he couldn't have known for sure or the speed of it. Beating Bayern Munich with Villa in the champions league must be so different to beating Bayern Munich with Man City, from a Villa fan perspective. A drunk in the pub described it as sacking your poor family off as a ten year old to be adopted by a uncaring billionaire so you can go to Disneyland twice a year, then a couple of years later your family win 100 grand on the lottery and can go to Disneyland and all expenses paid and have the holiday of a lifetime once. One is going to be way more meaningful, special and significant than the other. 3
Don_Simon Posted October 3 Posted October 3 35 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: A drunk in the pub described it as sacking your poor family off as a ten year old to be adopted by a uncaring billionaire so you can go to Disneyland twice a year, then a couple of years later your family win 100 grand on the lottery and can go to Disneyland and all expenses paid and have the holiday of a lifetime once. One is going to be way more meaningful, special and significant than the other. That drunk in the pub is more eloquent than most sober people around. I wonder if he has regrets, I guess he does. Yet, we wouldn't be where we are without the money gained from selling him. (This summer proved that!) So it's probably somewhere in the middle. I think, if in his pomp, he'd be **** unstoppable as a ball carrier in an Emery team. It would be glorious.
Keyblade Posted October 3 Posted October 3 2 hours ago, Don_Simon said: That drunk in the pub is more eloquent than most sober people around. I wonder if he has regrets, I guess he does. Yet, we wouldn't be where we are without the money gained from selling him. (This summer proved that!) So it's probably somewhere in the middle. I think, if in his pomp, he'd be **** unstoppable as a ball carrier in an Emery team. It would be glorious. Jack off the left with Rogers in the middle would be absolutely ridiculous in terms of ball carrying. Our counter attacks would be so deadly.
The Moustache of Teale Posted October 3 Posted October 3 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: Jack off the left with Rogers in the middle would be absolutely ridiculous in terms of ball carrying. Our counter attacks would be so deadly. 2
Don_Simon Posted October 3 Posted October 3 2 hours ago, The Moustache of Teale said: Nah, doesn't work.
MaVilla Posted October 3 Posted October 3 4 hours ago, Don_Simon said: That drunk in the pub is more eloquent than most sober people around. I wonder if he has regrets, I guess he does. Yet, we wouldn't be where we are without the money gained from selling him. (This summer proved that!) So it's probably somewhere in the middle. I think, if in his pomp, he'd be **** unstoppable as a ball carrier in an Emery team. It would be glorious. You make a fair point. Without selling Grealish, we wouldnt be where we are today, the butterfly effect and all that. 1
Stevo985 Posted October 4 VT Supporter Posted October 4 (edited) 20 hours ago, turvontour said: Was in the Social pre match last night and saw the pictures of him from when he was a kid being in there pre game. It's funny isn't, he absolutely made the right decision in terms of winning as many medals as he can but it would have been incredible for him to be a part of those sort of matches like last night. He must have been aware of the planned trajectory of the club, but I suppose he couldn't have known for sure or the speed of it. Beating Bayern Munich with Villa in the champions league must be so different to beating Bayern Munich with Man City, from a Villa fan perspective. Even knowing the trajectory of Villa, with the best will in the world and everything going perfectly, it'll be a decade before we get to the level of Man City (and there's only a tiny tiny chance that will ever happen). He's won 3 league titles and a champions league already. he'd be long retired before we get that sort of trophy haul This argument (and I'm not saying this is what you're saying, but other people do) that he should have stayed because he "believed in the project" so should have known we'd get really good just doesn't make sense if we're talking about winning things. Obviously there's the argument that it means more with Villa, and I agree that it would. But the step up he took was massive Edited October 4 by Stevo985
rodders0223 Posted October 4 Posted October 4 20 hours ago, VillaJ100 said: A drunk in the pub described it as sacking your poor family off as a ten year old to be adopted by a uncaring billionaire so you can go to Disneyland twice a year, then a couple of years later your family win 100 grand on the lottery and can go to Disneyland and all expenses paid and have the holiday of a lifetime once. One is going to be way more meaningful, special and significant than the other. Anybody that doesn't take the billions is a mug!
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