zab6359 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, nick76 said: I think it’s more than that. Risking relegation is foolish, a bit of money now against the loss of money from relegation. It took us three years to get back up last time. Yes adding another striker may not make much difference but likely to be positive rather than negative. As for FFP, if we are relegated then we will have money from Grealish, Mings and McGinn sales and if we aren’t relegated we should still avoid FFP issues. Completely agree but fixed that bit for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: We do. We just aren't allowed to spend it I reckon it's more to do with convincing good players to come here. There's a chance that we'll go down players don't want to take that chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 As disappointing as it is, I don't think anyone who we can afford would make that much difference now. Bowen looks a stretch and TBH as a young man, with the money WHU are likely offering and the London thing, we can't compete. Slow and steady, we just need to scrape through this season and in two years I am confident we will be a solid mid table, possibly top ten side with continued investment in the right long term players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, Bugzy1991 said: The only thing I can think of is that they're planning to play to Elmo in back 3 in emergencies like many fullbacks do in that system. Luiz has more experience as a CB so think he'd be the emergency option. We could always coax Jedinak out of retirement. In before Villalad brings it up as another Smith failing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, TheStagMan said: So we sign Benteke on loan..... he does feck all and we still get relegated. Would that be better? Did I say Benteke? No If Davis gets injured again and it takes Samatta 10 games at least to get up to speed, we don’t have options. I’d rather Benteke on loan than nothing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, thunderball said: As disappointing as it is, I don't think anyone who we can afford would make that much difference now. Bowen looks a stretch and TBH as a young man, with the money WHU are likely offering and the London thing, we can't compete. Slow and steady, we just need to scrape through this season and in two years I am confident we will be a solid mid table, possibly top ten side with continued investment in the right long term players. Apparenty 11-12 mil up front with addons taking it to a max 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post terrytini Posted January 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) I can’t normally be arsed with the Transfer thread but must admit I find the idea that “ there MUST BE” (another as we’ve just bought one)-Striker out there (that will presumably score what, 6/plus goals ?) we could’ve got” to be close to the definition of Fantasy Football thinking. Where ? Who would let such a player go ? How many other Clubs would be in for such a player ? (And that’s before you get to cost, whether he wants to come, time to settle in etc etc.) It’s possible such a player is out there, of course. But that’s all, possible. Not finding that possibility is hardly something to warrant outrage, despair at lack of funds, or accusations of incompetence. Edited January 31, 2020 by terrytini 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, zab6359 said: Far from it Wes is a useless lump, I wish him a speedy recovery but he's never going to be a good player for us We said Nyland was worse than rabies before his injury but he has come back better. That could be due to settling in more over here, working hard on the mental side, studying the English game in more detail in his time off, a renewed hunger to succeed having had the lows etc. I think Wes has so many raw ingredients that can potentially make him really good but right now he is about 5/10 in most areas. I think it is likely that he will improve a fair bit in the next couple of seasons, it's just a matter of how much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thabucks Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Dominic Revan is ample back up for Mings, Hause, Engels, Konsa IF and it’s a big IF we suffer no more long term injuries. Maybe it’s a risk worth taking. Also do some posters just want us to smash our wage structure and pay a reckless fee on a short term striker fix with no guarantee of success and whose signing could impact our summer recruitment? Or do we trust them to make the decision that if relative value Isn’t available or preferred targets aren’t that we wont to be held to ransom and make a signing just for the sake of it? I’m convinced if no one comes in today it won’t be for lack of trying and that we have a long term plan and are sticking to it in terms of fees wages and calibre of player. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, terrytini said: I can’t normally be arsed with the Transfer thread but must admit I find the idea that “ there MUST BE” (another as we’ve just bought one)-Striker out there (that will presumably score what, 6/plus goals ?) we could’ve got” to be close to the definition of a Fantasy Football thinking. Where ? Who would let such a player go ? How many other Clubs would be in for such a player ? (And that’s before you get to cost, whether he wants to come, time to settle in etc etc.) It’s possible such a player is out there, of course. But that’s all, possible. Not finding that possibility is hardly something warrant outrage, despair at lack of funds, or accusations of incompetence. We should have done it in the summer. It was a big mistake to put all the eggs in the Wes basket. If we are relegated do we just say it's bad luck then? Or do we question what we've done in 2 transfer windows? For me I don't think we've done enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, El-Reacho said: I reckon it's more to do with convincing good players to come here. There's a chance that we'll go down players don't want to take that chance. I also think the board will have one eye on the Championship hence the signing of 8 mil strikers. But a loan deal wouldn't be an issue just who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, terrytini said: I can’t normally be arsed with the Transfer thread but must admit I find the idea that “ there MUST BE” (another as we’ve just bought one)-Striker out there (that will presumably score what, 6/plus goals ?) we could’ve got” to be close to the definition of a Fantasy Football thinking. Where ? Who would let such a player go ? How many other Clubs would be in for such a player ? (And that’s before you get to cost, whether he wants to come, time to settle in etc etc.) It’s possible such a player is out there, of course. But that’s all, possible. Not finding that possibility is hardly something warrant outrage, despair at lack of funds, or accusations of incompetence. Being able to put things into context isn't one of this place's strong points I'm afraid. You're completely correct though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 In our new system McGinn can play as one of the midfield two, or further forward as another no.10 alongside Grealish behind the striker, as we don't necessarily have to play with specialist wingers in the side now with Targett and Guilbert providing the width. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I don't think I understand how they're calculating inflation. It’s obviously not based on inflation in the term that the reserve bank would use it. They must have calculated their own ‘football’ inflation. I’m guessing they worked out the average transfer cost 20-30 years ago and how it related to the biggest transfer of that era, then scaled it up based on the current average transfer cost to get these figures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I don't think I understand how they're calculating inflation. I assumed it was the inflation within football and not the rate of inflation in the UK. For example, the TV deals which are massive compared with 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 31, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2020 Not bringing someone else is a **** up. We're not in an easy position. But we have to deal with it somehow, and leaving this window with just a single senior striker, again new to the league, is a major gamble. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, DCJonah said: We should have done it in the summer. It was a big mistake to put all the eggs in the Wes basket. If we are relegated do we just say it's bad luck then? Or do we question what we've done in 2 transfer windows? For me I don't think we've done enough. I won’t argue we haven’t done enough. My point is those that make the jump from that, to blaming the Club, when there are so many factors at work, and when we have had such a huge restructuring job on the playing side, are being unreasonable, at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Come back from a few hours out, all excited to see what's happening... and nothing, nothing at all. Still sounds like we're after another striker, but if Sky Sports is anything to go by not a whole lot of movement on that end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Luiz has more experience as a CB so think he'd be the emergency option. We could always coax Jedinak out of retirement. In before Villalad brings it up as another Smith failing. We would change to 4 at the back for a couple of games until one of the injured centre backs returned. Remember, it would take 2 serious injuries to cause us a problem and we obviously can’t keep that many players happy on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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