ender4 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Dave-R said: Do you know what I'd do. If it came to it city were to choose the buy back and Luiz wanted to stay, I would seriously offer city more money to back of the buy back just to keep this bloke, surely that can be done right??? Man City aren't bothered by an extra £10 million here or there. If they want the player, they get the player whatever we say or offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 10 hours ago, Mat Kendrick's Dentist said: Douglas and Luiz are both his first names. It's why pedants liked me hate when people call him "Luiz"! hold on.... what's his actual surname then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, ender4 said: hold on.... what's his actual surname then? His full name is Douglas Luiz Soares de Pablo, but in Spanish and Portuguese naming conventions you rarely use someone's full name, as people tend to have similar surnames and often multiple ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 minute ago, ender4 said: hold on.... what's his actual surname then? Douglas Luiz Soares de Paulo. Portuguese/Brazilian culture doesn't follow the forename-surname naming conventions that we have in the UK. The really simple version is they have double double barrelled names, where they'll take names from both parents and the grandparents. It then gets shortened down to a nickname for day to day use. Cristiano Ronaldo is actually called Cristiano Ronaldo dos Santos Aveiro. OG Ronaldo is actually called Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima. Neymar is called Neymar da Silva Santos Júnior (which is why he goes by Neymar and Neymar Jr) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Just now, The_Rev said: Douglas Luiz Soares de Paulo. Portuguese/Brazilian culture doesn't follow the forename-surname naming conventions that we have in the UK. The really simple version is they have double double barrelled names, where they'll take names from both parents and the grandparents. It then gets shortened down to a nickname for day to day use. Cristiano Ronaldo is actually called Cristiano Ronaldo dos Santos Aveiro. OG Ronaldo is actually called Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima. Neymar is called Neymar da Silva Santos Júnior (which is why he goes by Neymar and Neymar Jr) Typical foreigners. Eh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Chindie said: His full name is Douglas Luiz Soares de Pablo, but in Spanish and Portuguese naming conventions you rarely use someone's full name, as people tend to have similar surnames and often multiple ones. Like Neville Neville 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Are City really gonna take Luiz and Jack from us? Would be absolutely disgraceful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WooJung Posted July 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Are City really gonna take Luiz and Jack from us? Would be absolutely disgraceful At least they no longer have stephen Ireland to include in the deal 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkiller1981 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, DCJonah said: You can see what pep saw in him. With the buyback clause, does it get bigger the longer he stays? I thought it had an expiry of a year or two years ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 44 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Are City really gonna take Luiz and Jack from us? Would be absolutely disgraceful I think if they do, we should take it as a compliment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: They already have Rodri. They also have a backup lb who cost over 60m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 22, 2020 29 minutes ago, HeyAnty said: They also have a backup lb who cost over 60m. And so much money value is meaningless. And a five sub rule to appease benched stars. And a toothless tiger in the shape of FFP laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Danny_Villaman84 said: It is 25 millions pounds by this summer in next summer it is would be 35 millions pounds. The expires date for a pay back clause will be 2 years time Summer. It was accord to Birmingham mail. They suggested it could be that but said they had no idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Dave-R said: Do you know what I'd do. If it came to it city were to choose the buy back and Luiz wanted to stay, I would seriously offer city more money to back of the buy back just to keep this bloke, surely that can be done right??? Yeah been done a number of times across Europe when you buy out the contract clause. Been done with clubs and players. It’s generally a smaller figure as well than the difference, but just depends if both clubs want to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 On 22/07/2020 at 14:14, nick76 said: Yeah been done a number of times across Europe when you buy out the contract clause. Been done with clubs and players. It’s generally a smaller figure as well than the difference, but just depends if both clubs want to do it. Well if the rumours are true and arsenal are to try grab Luiz for either of the two reported figures I'm seeing in the news of 15.5 or 30 mill then its make sense that we challenge that offer with a higher one right?? Need to make securing Luiz priority. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordVillan Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 If Douglas Luiz wants to stay, he’ll stay. It’s up to Villa to make him want to stay. Regardless of any contractual clause, if the player doesn’t want to join another club then he stays where he is, he’ll refuse any offer made to him. City could trigger the clause to find out that the player is loving life at Villa and refuses to even negotiate about a return. A few things would need to happen for that to have any chance of coming to fruition; (1) Villa would have to be a Premier League club. (2) Jack Grealish would have to be retained at the club. (3) Douglas Luiz would need to see evidence that Villa were impatient to join the upper echelons of the league. Which would mean buying quality rather than selling it (see point 2). If those three points can be met then there is a chance. If not then we’re looking at yet another summer of rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted July 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, OxfordVillan said: If Douglas Luiz wants to stay, he’ll stay. It’s up to Villa to make him want to stay. Regardless of any contractual clause, if the player doesn’t want to join another club then he stays where he is, he’ll refuse any offer made to him. City could trigger the clause to find out that the player is loving life at Villa and refuses to even negotiate about a return. A few things would need to happen for that to have any chance of coming to fruition; (1) Villa would have to be a Premier League club. (2) Jack Grealish would have to be retained at the club. (3) Douglas Luiz would need to see evidence that Villa were impatient to join the upper echelons of the league. Which would mean buying quality rather than selling it (see point 2). If those three points can be met then there is a chance. If not then we’re looking at yet another summer of rebuild. Agree, if we stay up and the owners are serious, they’ll buy the quality players needed to keep the good players at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) Isn't the issue though that he still might not get a work permit for Man City? Has only one cap for Brazil (I think) so his transfer fee and/or wages would need to be amongst the highest at the club to get a WP. Seems more likely they would buy him back to sell him for a profit to another club - and the WP issue would remain for any top 6 club you would think - and how many clubs in the top 6 would take a player with one season in the PL and make him one of their high earners? Edited July 24, 2020 by Ponky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Agreed if we stay up we need to look attractive for him to stay, cause if it's a choice of playing with Samatta and Davies or Aubameyang and Lacazzete it's a no brainer at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, OxfordVillan said: If Douglas Luiz wants to stay, he’ll stay. It’s up to Villa to make him want to stay. Regardless of any contractual clause, if the player doesn’t want to join another club then he stays where he is, he’ll refuse any offer made to him. City could trigger the clause to find out that the player is loving life at Villa and refuses to even negotiate about a return. A few things would need to happen for that to have any chance of coming to fruition; (1) Villa would have to be a Premier League club. (2) Jack Grealish would have to be retained at the club. (3) Douglas Luiz would need to see evidence that Villa were impatient to join the upper echelons of the league. Which would mean buying quality rather than selling it (see point 2). If those three points can be met then there is a chance. If not then we’re looking at yet another summer of rebuild. There's no way he's not going back to city if they trigger the clause. Come on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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