JamesBCFC Posted July 4, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: When do we start worrying at the lack of quality and quantity on the squad? If you don't make a signing on Wednesday, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2019 42 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Looks like another day of no signings Here you go 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 22 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: You're a last minute kinda guy, I can tell. Would have liked players to be more settled in with style of play and tactics etc, but your plan is definitely more interesting. In some ways, but I don't mean let's do all of our business in the last week of the window as such. But at times things don't always go to plan, situations can drag on etc. As we all know. If all your business is done before the window closes then great, everyone beds in quicker etc. Ideal. But I wouldn't be panic buying either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted July 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, LoughboroughLion said: Pathetic. I mean, who on earth would make things up and post it on the internet to come across ITK - it's not even Wednesday. Worse than VillaReport. Villareport is good. My favourite twitter account. Hold up, the Birmingham Mail have just tweeted... ’Villa fans are all saying the same thing about this potential signing’. Best click on that. At least I’ll see some good quality advertising after I’ve found out we’ve snapped up a reserve team goalkeeping coach. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said: 'Villa fans are all saying the same thing about this potential signing’. Charlie Austin is shit and no thanks!... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 40 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I don’t think we will be ready by then. With the amount of business we need to complete it will go down to the wire. Edit: realised after posting this the window closes before the first game so we have to be ready. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 47 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: When do we start worrying at the lack of quality and quantity on the squad? depends on where in the various chains across European football our targets are sat, for example - we want a CB from Benfica, he's currently 2nd choice and unavailable - man city buy rodri from Atletico - Atletico use that money to buy joao felix - benifca use that money to buy a CB - our target becomes available change the clubs but the theory of it remains, we have to wait for everyone to make their move before anything happens, that's why every year so many transfers are made at the death, clubs spend all summer waiting for moves elsewhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, M_Afro said: I am not sure it is quite “very dire”, although it is concerning. So long as Hause, Chester and Connor are fit, then we are ok. I would call that "very concerning" myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, fightoffyour said: I presume you are making it up but if not I can definitely get some ITK on this... ITK from Villa or ITK from ITV? Please do - would be good to confirm either way whether the Mings to Casa Amor loan rumours are true. Edited July 4, 2019 by KentVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Junxs said: I totally agree Redmond is a decent player and would go straight into our team, but so would any decent right winger with the squad we have at the moment. Trouble is in todays market he would cost £30m+ and we arent in a position like most prem clubs trying to meet the home grown criteria, meaning we could pick up better value abroad Southampton apparently getting Bowen for £15m, so not all proves are that exaggerated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2019 Brighton want £40m for Dunk apparently. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) I'm starting to get seriously worried already. As has been said we have a lot of business to do and only four weeks (give or take) to do it. I knew I would get nervous this early and I knew I shouldnt be but I am. I thought we wouldve got Mings and Butland in by now (or equivalents) and that is why I am as nervous as I am. 2 CB, 1 GK and 1 DM positions are the heart of our defence and yes there are back ups in Hause and co but that doesnt fill me with confidence having all those positions with back up players. I believe in Smith, Suso etc but Jeez a couple of signings quickly would help my nerves please. Edited July 4, 2019 by nick76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 3 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Man Utd just spent almost that amount on one right back with one season of experience. £70m for 3 players is pretty cheap now. Where have you guys been for the past 3 or 4 years?! I’m surprised that people find it so surprising. I’m sorry, but I’m not having that. You’ve used one of the most expensive rightbacks ever, signing for a club trying to get back into the Champions League, as your example. No one is denying that prices have gone up, but there are still transfers much cheaper than £25-£30m. £70m for 3 players isn’t ‘cheap’ in my book. £40m or less for 3 players, maybe. Daniel James to Man Utd £15m, Clarke to Spurs £8.5m, Dawson to Watford £5.5m, Trossard to Brighton rumoured to be around £18m, Justin to Leicester was rumoured to be around £10m. Some of these transfers I would consider to be ‘cheap’, but around £25m each for 3 players isn’t cheap, unless you’re buying a Man City/Man Utd quality player. I still think we’ll see plenty of transfers this window where we go “wow, what a bargain!”.... and it won’t be when a club signs a championship player with 1 good year for £25m+! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 4, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2019 IMO, we still need... 2x CB 1x DM 2x Wingers 1x Striker Nice to haves 1x GK An additional DM That's a lot to get done still.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, PieFacE said: IMO, we still need... 2x CB 1x DM 2x Wingers 1x Striker Nice to haves 1x GK An additional DM That's a lot to get done still.... I'd move one of those wingers into the second category. But definitely still a lot to do, and they all need to be first team starters too (perhaps excluding the striker but we'll still need someone good). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, PieFacE said: IMO, we still need... 2x CB 1x DM 2x Wingers 1x Striker Nice to haves 1x GK An additional DM That's a lot to get done still.... The GK is close to being a need. We should sign Benrahma and Leao and tick the 2x Wingers and 1x Striker boxes based on their versatility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, Rob182 said: I’m sorry, but I’m not having that. You’ve used one of the most expensive rightbacks ever, signing for a club trying to get back into the Champions League, as your example. No one is denying that prices have gone up, but there are still transfers much cheaper than £25-£30m. £70m for 3 players isn’t ‘cheap’ in my book. £40m or less for 3 players, maybe. Daniel James to Man Utd £15m, Clarke to Spurs £8.5m, Dawson to Watford £5.5m, Trossard to Brighton rumoured to be around £18m, Justin to Leicester was rumoured to be around £10m. Some of these transfers I would consider to be ‘cheap’, but around £25m each for 3 players isn’t cheap, unless you’re buying a Man City/Man Utd quality player. I still think we’ll see plenty of transfers this window where we go “wow, what a bargain!”.... and it won’t be when a club signs a championship player with 1 good year for £25m+! You know every other big signing this summer will be "one of the most expensive <insert position> ever" right? That's how an inflating market works. You might "not be having that" but it's a market and it's manifestly obvious to anyone watching it closely that prices have doubled. Daniel James is 21 and has one season in the Championship under his belt. Jack Clarke is 18. Craig Dawson is past it and will have no resale value. Trossard and Justin could be bargains, although neither of them has set the world alight yet? If you want to sign a player aged 22-24 hitting his peak, with genuine PL potential, you will be paying £20m+ unless there are some serious red flags against his name (injuries, attitude, etc.). In a couple of years you might spot some bargain buys from this summer's transfer window, but I guarantee none of them will have looked like bargains at the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teale's 'tache Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Just read somewhere that Ezri Konsa has a £12m release clause, didn't our resident Brentford fan quote us £20m for him? Might be worth a look! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, KentVillan said: You know every other big signing this summer will be "one of the most expensive <insert position> ever" right? That's how an inflating market works. You might "not be having that" but it's a market and it's manifestly obvious to anyone watching it closely that prices have doubled. Daniel James is 21 and has one season in the Championship under his belt. Jack Clarke is 18. Craig Dawson is past it and will have no resale value. Trossard and Justin could be bargains, although neither of them has set the world alight yet? If you want to sign a player aged 22-24 hitting his peak, with genuine PL potential, you will be paying £20m+ unless there are some serious red flags against his name (injuries, attitude, etc.). In a couple of years you might spot some bargain buys from this summer's transfer window, but I guarantee none of them will have looked like bargains at the time. The post I was responding to was addressing the potential £25m+ signings of Butland, Phillips and Webster. Why are Phillips and Webster genuine PL potential, but Daniel James is "21 and has one season in the Championship under his belt" ? They've each had one good season. None of these 3 has "Set the world alight" as you refer to with Trossard, and yet we're meant to believe that signing them for £70m would be cheap? Every other 'big' signing might be one of the most expensive players ever, but we're not a team making big signings. We're a team making signings to build a squad that can survive, or push for mid-table, in the Prem, so why are we comparing the prices we're paying to Wan bloody Bissaka? EDIT: Also, Craig Dawson has 153 Premier League appearances under his belt and is only 3 years older than Butland. He's now in his prime, for a defender. Hence, he is my definition of a cheap, 'bargain' Premier League player. Edited July 4, 2019 by Rob182 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordVillan Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 We do have a lot of work to do in the transfer market, ideally we’d want everyone in a couple weeks before opening game of league season. So another couple of weeks should be fine before we start getting jittery if we’ve no CBs or CDM. A lot depends on who the incoming players might be; if it’s just a matter of time waiting for Mings then that would be fine as he should slot straight back in even if goes to deadline day. Ditto Kalvin Phillips, to a degree. Its sobering to think we go away to a champions league finalist in just over a month with, at this moment, only about half a championship team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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