Gareth Southgate

[bielesibub]

13 hours ago, Hornso said:

Pretty apt description 

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STOP PRESS!!! Dementor Ate My Wife!

[Phil Silvers]

26 minutes ago, rodders0223 said:

You don't captain several PL clubs, play for your country 60 times, step up in a semi final to take a penalty for the first time ever, manage your country, manage a group of 26, and a mammoth set up behind it by being an absolute melt.

Say what you want about his abhorrent football like but come on.

100% correct pal, he's a clearing in the woods not a melt.

[rodders0223]

5 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said:

100% correct pal, he's a clearing in the woods not a melt.

Getting us to our first final in my lifetime, and all my living relatives'

 

What a word removed!

[Phil Silvers]

1 minute ago, rodders0223 said:

Getting us to our first final in my lifetime, and all my living relatives'

 

What a word removed!

Correct 

 

Edit, BTW, the word I typed was 4 letters long and began and ended with a T, it was not the c-word rodders, I would not be so rude

Edited July 8, 2021 by Phil Silvers

[Wainy316]

For all this faults I guess he's England's second most successful manager of all time now 

And he still turns me on.

 

[sharkyvilla]

Probably have to add 'Sir' to the start of the thread title soon.

[turnbull]

As one of the few peeps on here who have actually seen England win a World Cup, it's quite a relief that we've finally reached another final. Can't knock GS for his achievement, it ain't to be sniffed at.

[PaulC]

1 hour ago, Wainy316 said:

For all this faults I guess he's England's second most successful manager of all time now 

And he still turns me on.

 

If we win would he be the most successful?  Its such a young squad anyway, this is just the start of a dynasty. We go into the world cup as one of the favourites.

[Ingram85]

Is it not possible to appreciate getting to the final and dislike Gareth at the same time? Because I don’t like him but I appreciate England getting to the final. It’s not one or the other. I don’t like Ibrahimovic, he’s a word removed but he’s a fantastic footballer. If he’s successful that means I can’t think he’s a clearing? 

[mikeyp102]

6 hours ago, Zatman said:

While true you can only beat whats in front of you. In 2018 they lost to Belgium strategically as they would have went into the nightmare side of the draw. 

I think the gap between the big nations and mid tier nations is getting closer. Portugal and Croatia now England have got to recent finals so its not like it was for years previous 

Pre Tournament everyone was debating whether we should lose a game as it was perceived that the group runner up would go into the better half of the draw. Yet we’ve topped the group and beaten everyone we’ve faced. I actually think teams will fear facing England 

[Chine]

2 hours ago, sharkyvilla said:

Probably have to add 'Sir' to the start of the thread title soon.

I think this point is valid , we seem to give the title away to easy , but he really gets on my nerves 

[Zatman]

3 hours ago, mikeyp102 said:

Pre Tournament everyone was debating whether we should lose a game as it was perceived that the group runner up would go into the better half of the draw. Yet we’ve topped the group and beaten everyone we’ve faced. I actually think teams will fear facing England 

well I dont think this was strongest tournament, England best challenge would be the group of death runner up. Only major teams on that side should have been Spain and Netherlands. Spain were the only decent team of the 3, I think Denmark fully fit give England a better game than 2 of them 3

[ciggiesnbeer]

50 minutes ago, Zatman said:

well I dont think this was strongest tournament, England best challenge would be the group of death runner up. Only major teams on that side should have been Spain and Netherlands. Spain were the only decent team of the 3, I think Denmark fully fit give England a better game than 2 of them 3

I feel that way after every international tournament. This year I think France was so clearly the best team that once they got knocked out it was wide open.

Luck plays a massive part in international football and Southgate has been very lucky so far. I hope his luck holds and we win it! I still wouldn't want him anywhere near managing Villa mind. 

[Zatman]

2 minutes ago, ciggiesnbeer said:

I feel that way after every international tournament. This year I think France was so clearly the best team that once they got knocked out it was wide open.

Luck plays a massive part in international football and Southgate has been very lucky so far. I hope his luck holds and we win it! I still wouldn't want him anywhere near managing Villa mind. 

Yeah I think a lot of big name countries plus Belgium are always hyped before tournaments just because of the history and the player names. England have 1 or 2 big name superstars and Italy probably the same but not as many as other teams but they are both actually teams not relying on individual skills.

[lapal_fan]

The managers since I've been alive (87) are;

Bobby Robson - best finish - Semi Final, losing against Germany

Graham Taylor - Exited the 1992 group stage, failed to get to WC 94

Terry Venables - Euro 96 semi, losing to Germany

Glenn Hoddle - Last 16 WC 98, losing to Argentina

Kevin Keegan - Euro 2000 group stage 

Sven - 2 WC quarter finals (losing to Brazil and Portugal), 1 Euro quarter final (losing to Portugal)

McClaren - failed to get to Euro 08

Fabio Capello - WC2010 last 16, losing against Germany 4-1

Roy Hodgson - Euro 2012 quarter final (losing to Italy on pens), WC2014 group stage (finished bottom of Uruguay/Costa Rica & Italy), Euro 2016 Last 16 (losing to Iceland)

Big Sam - yep.

I'll take Southgate's achievements over any of them, bar maybe Bobby Robson who I think would have gone on to win the WC had we beaten Germany.  We've had really strong teams previously, with stars all over the pitch and continually failed to do anything.  Southgate has one of the youngest groups, he's worked with the majority of them for years and he knows their strengths and weaknesses.  He doesn't "let them off the leash" like Sven did, relying on better individuals to do something (usually Becks/Owen) he has a system which so far has worked very well. 

It's not the most entertaining system, it's not the most exciting system, but we don't have the calibre of players in the middle to let Jack/Foden/Kane do what they want.  If we had a Makelele or a Kante, alongside a Zidane, I'm sure we'd play it differently. 

But what he's done, is get a group of players who want to play for England (which is one thing from previous experience), who are happy to play in a specific role, they know their jobs and we're beating the teams we're playing against. 

We're in our first final since 66, we've actually played some decent stuff at times and I don't see what the moaning is about - even if he doesn't start Jack.  It's obvious to me from this tournament, if we need a goal Jack is the first person on that pitch.  I think the decision on Wednesday was down to Foden/Jack when Denmark went 4-2-4 and we've heard Southgate say previously he values big match experience (such as Foden in the CL final), that's probably what kept him on the pitch over Jack - not that Jack seemingly cares much about it. 

I don't understand why some are not excited.  I'd rather have an intelligent person like Southgate, than a chancer like Big Sam or (shudder) Harry Redknapp when there was clamour for him 5 years ago. 

[It's Your Round]

That’s pretty much where I’m at now @lapal_fan. We’ve got to appreciate the good times when we’ve got them, it might not happen again for another 55 years. 
 

We can wait until Villa are back for the scintillating football. 

[Rodders]

 

 

[theboyangel]

 

never liked his ads anyway

[HanoiVillan]

Mad to think that most of that 11% are members of VillaTalk.

[MNVillan]

On 08/07/2021 at 10:11, Wainy316 said:

For all this faults I guess he's England's second most successful manager of all time now 

And he still turns me on.

 

If I had any idea who the guy is that everyone always posts gifs of for sexual innuendos… well I’d do it now.