Popular Post Genie Posted July 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2021 I think it was actually Mrs Southgate that said this 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 All of a sudden he's become the most successful England manager in decades. It's a results based sport, and he's getting results. The players seem to like playing for him. They are a disciplined side. No goals allowed so far. He's been justified in starting Sterling and Kane. He's annoying and conservative, but the ends justify the means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 36 minutes ago, Genie said: I think it was actually Mrs Southgate that said this Is that Ukraine logo a bird of some sort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Just now, maqroll said: Is that Ukraine logo a bird of some sort? A Kraine perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, LondonLax said: A Kraine perhaps? https://images.app.goo.gl/CmWQnbtWLNSjy68m9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 Doesn’t want egos in the team but he’s got the biggest one of them all. I used to admire him as a kid when he played for us. Now I hate him. Im unhappy that it perpetuates the myth of him being a great manager but I’m more happy for the other players that we are in the final in spite of him. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Panto_Villan Posted July 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2021 Can't argue with results. Unless you're on VillaTalk. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skruff Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 It's a team you'll root for if you're English. He's getting results, fair play. If you're neutral he's the dementor of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Skruff said: It's a team you'll root for if you're English. He's getting results, fair play. If you're neutral he's the dementor of football. I’m English and I root for the players in spite of him because I think he is a dementor. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Skruff said: It's a team you'll root for if you're English. He's getting results, fair play. If you're neutral he's the dementor of football. Can't be bothered to look it up, is a dementor another word for dickhead 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Phil Silvers said: Can't be bothered to look it up, is a dementor another word for dickhead Quote A Dementor is a gliding, wraithlike Dark creature, widely considered to be one of the foulest to inhabit the wizarding world. Dementors feed on human happiness and thus generate feelings of depression and despair in any person in close proximity to them. Pretty apt description Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 He’s getting results so fair play to him on that, it does seem like he’s supremely lucky though. The draws he gets, the bizarre tactical decisions etc. We’re in the final and we’ve not played a top team who are in good form yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethRDR Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Some people might flinch if you feign to slap them. Southgate would run out of the room, drive home, lock all the doors and windows and climb into bed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayEm Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Genie said: He’s getting results so fair play to him on that, it does seem like he’s supremely lucky though. The draws he gets, the bizarre tactical decisions etc. We’re in the final and we’ve not played a top team who are in good form yet. Have to agree. We've looked good defensively but no teams have really tested us too much. Southgate hasn't had to respond to any lucky goals or moments of individual brilliance from the opposition, and Germany fluffed two very good chances against us. Had they scored those we'd be looking at a defeat by a fairly uninspiring German team that were, as we saw from the last twenty minutes, there for the taking. I worry that he'll start the same team against Italy, who'll cut through us and be 2-0 up at half time, and then rely on Jack and others coming on to save us again, when maybe finding a way to play Grealish from the start would have just been more straightforward... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted July 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) Think it was a couple of years ago , but Southgate appeared in the BBC commentary box at the Superbowl , he told Chapman that he was basically over to study how a team makes a play and the other team tries to anticipate and counter that play and he thought it was something that he could perhaps learn from .. prior to that when he first joined the England setup he went around studying the FA setup at countries that had won tournaments like Germany and Spain to see what he could learn from them. They've analysed tournaments and found that its not necessarily the best team that wins ( see Portugal last time out , Greece etc) but teams that are organised and solid . Now , I personally am not a fan of some of the performances and personnel he picks ( Mount & Sancho in particular) , but on the whole he has adapted to every team we've faced so far , you can see him and Holland watching the game's and kinda saying if they do X , we will do Y , if we score we will do this , if they score we will do that .. Germany plan A didn't work , so you bring on Jack and he changed the game , Ukraine the early goal and coasting , you don't need Jack so you give a run out to Rashford etc .. its boring but effective and 3 semi finals and now one final kinda proves this , he's either a very good manager or a very lucky one .. People can decide for themselves on this but he's pulled a Homer on every decision so far in this tournament , lets hope it continues for one more game Edited July 8, 2021 by tonyh29 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I think the kind draws are really helping Gareth. 2018 semi finals run was: Columbia (won on pens), Sweden, Croatia (lost). Lost both the group game and 3rd place playoff to Belgium. 2021 final run was: Germany, Ukraine, and Denmark. Aside from Germany, who were poor there’s no wins against top sides in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Genie said: I think the kind draws are really helping Gareth. 2018 semi finals run was: Columbia (won on pens), Sweden, Croatia (lost). Lost both the group game and 3rd place playoff to Belgium. 2021 final run was: Germany, Ukraine, and Denmark. Aside from Germany, who were poor there’s no wins against top sides in there. While true you can only beat whats in front of you. In 2018 they lost to Belgium strategically as they would have went into the nightmare side of the draw. I think the gap between the big nations and mid tier nations is getting closer. Portugal and Croatia now England have got to recent finals so its not like it was for years previous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 How many managers have we had since 66? None of them have achieved what Southgate has. He's really dogmatic, doesn't care about making unpopular decisions. Thinks things through very carefully. I like him as a person as well but hate the his treatment of Grealish but if we bring back the trophy it doesn't matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 5 hours ago, GarethRDR said: Some people might flinch if you feign to slap them. Southgate would run out of the room, drive home, lock all the doors and windows and climb into bed. You don't captain several PL clubs, play for your country 60 times, step up in a semi final to take a penalty for the first time ever, manage your country, manage a group of 26, and a mammoth set up behind it by being an absolute melt. Say what you want about his abhorrent football like but come on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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