Tom13 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 47 minutes ago, Zero7 said: According to slippy G, he just needs a bit of luck. - Gerrard on Philippe Coutinho: "We signed Phil, you could see from afar he wasn't happy at Barcelona. The age he's at and the talent he's got, I have full confidence in him. The stats suggest he's not at his best, but we will give him evety bit of support he needs. "He's pushing and trying. Like the team, he might just need some luck. But you don't lose talent and class. He blew the roof off Villa Patk [when he arrived]. It is still there, my opinion on him won't change ever." Jesus wept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 In other words Coutinho will keep receiving special treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBM Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 When the entire team is out of form, you cant blame any one player for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2022 Where does this leave Coutinho? Firstly I don't think you can judge ANY players performances under slippy. We've been a basket case for some time under him. Pretty much every player has gone backwards. Coutinho looked really good when he first came in but like every other player was dragged down by Gerrard. So will Coutinho want out now his mate isn’t here any more? Will he move heaven and earth to get a move? Is his stock still high enough that someone else will pay a fee and his wages or are we stuck with a player who doesn't want to be here but we can't get off our books? Will he become an expensive mistake and a drain on us? Or is there an actual proper competent manager out there who can come in and build a team around him and get him back on it again? Coutinho is the most worrying / interesting feature to watch as this unfolds I think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Get it over with and pay him up. He can't move and should never have been signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: Where does this leave Coutinho? Firstly I don't think you can judge ANY players performances under slippy. We've been a basket case for some time under him. Pretty much every player has gone backwards. Coutinho looked really good when he first came in but like every other player was dragged down by Gerrard. So will Coutinho want out now his mate isn’t here any more? Will he move heaven and earth to get a move? Is his stock still high enough that someone else will pay a fee and his wages or are we stuck with a player who doesn't want to be here but we can't get off our books? Will he become an expensive mistake and a drain on us? Or is there an actual proper competent manager out there who can come in and build a team around him and get him back on it again? Coutinho is the most worrying / interesting feature to watch as this unfolds I think. One of three things will happen: 1. A new manager who knows what he is doing get the best out of him - WIN 2. He is sold and we don't have to watch him waddling round the pitch any more - WIN 3. No one wants to buy him and he ends up in a bomb squad - LOSE Despite him being Stevies mate, he is a professional and will want to play and want to play well. Either 1 or 2 will happen, 3 is unlikely - he won't want to sit there just stealing a wage and not playing. He is not Lescott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted October 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 20, 2022 I guess this really is James Rodriguez all over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Play him out wide or an inside 10 alongside Emi and we’ve got a different player. He will prove himself again, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 He deserves as much chance as anyone else to move on from Slippy. He has proved he can be an asset. He hasn’t just turned to shite since those first few months. Give him a chance. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I think he'll have a transfer request in by the Brentford match. Be desperate to leave in Jan and I don't think anyone will be interested in buying him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Play him out wide or an inside 10 alongside Emi and we’ve got a different player. He will prove himself again, You can't play them together and he's played out wide and been awful. He can't run he drops his shoulder and goes nowhere he gots nothing left. He's not a premier league player anymore he's shot to bits. He was last season. Does nobody here actually watch him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 As I’ve said before he needs to adapt his game - he needs others to do his running for him but he can still find space in the box and he still has excellent passing. The youngsters who train with him as well will be benefiting so much from him. Maybe a 30 minute a game player now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: As I’ve said before he needs to adapt his game - he needs others to do his running for him but he can still find space in the box and he still has excellent passing. The youngsters who train with him as well will be benefiting so much from him. Maybe a 30 minute a game player now. He doesn't have excellent passing though. He strikes a ball well but he doesn't see or make great passes. He made his name and game from shifting the ball and scoring goals. He's never been a great passer and he hadn't been since he's been here. That's not his game. Emi can come on be just as frustrating but can often play those cute passes into strikers paths. I've not seen Coutinho do that at all. It's all sideways and nothing cutting edge. He's a goal scoring instinctive striker of the ball that has no sharpness about him anymore. Edit : the most assists he ever got for some really good liverpool teams is 7 a season and it's generally 2s and 3s. People so desperately want to see something with Coutinho that isn't there. Edited October 20, 2022 by rodders0223 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 He needs help, the CMs dont help, the full backs don't get forward and in front of him is Watkins and Ings. He's got zero help. Any new manager will be able to get more out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I think this is good for him. Nobody can throw the “teachers pet” insult at him anymore. Hopefully it will free him to show us his undoubted talent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 This could reinvigorate him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Clean slate just like every other player. There’s a good player in there, and just needs to be utilised properly. Let the new man use him properly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Sell him to LA Galaxy or Al-Hibab FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Buendia > Coutinho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Test of a pro - is he hungry or not? We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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