Popular Post KentVillan Posted June 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, sne said: Gary Lineker on crack? Was one of the most blatant red cards I've seen. I thought it was harsh. The contact was very dangerous but the action leading up to it was an honest clearance, laces through the ball, and his follow through was natural. I feel like it’s not that different from the red that was rescinded in the Chelsea game the other week. But clearly most people see it as a nailed on straight red so maybe I don’t understand the rules properly. For me the outcome shouldn’t be part of the consideration - only the action itself. If the foot wasn’t planted it probably would have been no injury, and nobody would have particularly noticed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osirus Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) . Edited June 29, 2021 by Osirus F****d it up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, KentVillan said: I thought it was harsh. The contact was very dangerous but the action leading up to it was an honest clearance, laces through the ball, and his follow through was natural. I feel like it’s not that different from the red that was rescinded in the Chelsea game the other week. But clearly most people see it as a nailed on straight red so maybe I don’t understand the rules properly. For me the outcome shouldn’t be part of the consideration - only the action itself. If the foot wasn’t planted it probably would have been no injury, and nobody would have particularly noticed. Disagree on that one. In this case he got the ball cleanly but he followed through and had a straight extended leg with the studs up and with a lot of force and momentum. He shattered the knee on his opponent due to the impact on the leg. Not seen or read a single Swedish journalist, ex-player or spoken to anyone who didn't think it was a correct red. Was unintended but reckless IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, Zatman said: Well England should win easily, with Southgate not so sure Yes I think we'll have our England v Italy final. May the best defence win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 It wasn’t a red card for me, obvs horrific contact and I’m surprised he limped (slowly) off, I was sure it had snapped. But it shouldn’t have been a red, the ball was there to be won, you could clearly see the Swedish player had eyes on the ball only, he’s made clear contact ahead of the opponent and after that he can’t make his foot disappear. I also didn’t like that when the on field ref got to the screen, the very first replay hen was shown was a super slow mo of the aftermath, the contact. Had he seen the whole action, perhaps it wouldn’t have been so hastily acted upon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 7 hours ago, TheAuthority said: Embarrassing. The line up. The booing. Easy to remember why I left. (Sorry to VT'ers who are of course the best of the best.) You left because of the lineup? Joking aside, aren’t you in the US? Flag shagging central, not exactly a hotbed of social tolerance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wainy316 Posted June 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Genie said: Bit harsh on @Wainy316 that My roll of honour: Clapped the knee Refused to join in 10 German bombers Clapped the German anthem Sang my heart out for Super Jack and even sang about Maguire For shame, I did cheer the crying girl Even more shamefully I paid £7 a pint It was **** brilliant though, best atmosphere I’ve been in since the playoff final. Edited June 29, 2021 by Wainy316 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Know a couple of bluenoses who went. Annoying they've seen Grealish live more than me in last 18 months! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Does Saka get dropped for Jack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 36 minutes ago, maqroll said: Does Saka get dropped for Jack? Probably. Stirling has made himself undroppable and fairplay to him. I thought Saka played well, Jack just brings that extra magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 hours ago, maqroll said: Does Saka get dropped for Jack? Play both either side of Sterling, behind Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 8 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Gutted for Sweden. I'm not. Bahahahahaaa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 8 hours ago, El Zen said: I will never understand how anyone can see that and say it’s not a red card all day long. You’ll have more luck telling me the moon really is made of cheese. Yep. I'm normally one for tough play, but you can't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 You are in charge of your own body, you can't just hit the ball and follow through like that. It's a red any day of the week. Straight leg, studs up and follows through. It leaves the other player injured which shows was a rash challenge it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 30, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 30, 2021 8 hours ago, PaulC said: Yes he doesn't release the ball at the right time like Grealish but it was him that created the first goal with his run and pass to Kane and he continued his run and got on the end of the cross from shaw. Find it hard to understand why people are so critical of him. He had a good game today and scored a goal. Yes, if you go back to my original point, it was that he was crap except for the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted June 30, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Roughly translated from the Swedish ref expert yesterday: The red card is unfortunately, completely correct. The tackle jeopardizes the opponent's safety, even if there is no intention, or if the Ukrainian actually runs into Danielsson's outstretched legs or feet. The intention is always a second to consequence when it comes to unfair play. What happens is more important than the player's intention. Edited June 30, 2021 by Tegis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 5 hours ago, maqroll said: Does Saka get dropped for Jack? No. Jack kane sterling Saka Rice Mount Trippier Mings Maguire Stones Pickford No chance for Mings, Walker is a Southgate favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Just now, Phil Silvers said: No. Jack kane sterling Saka Rice Mount Trippier Mings Maguire Stones Pickford No chance for Mings, Walker is a Southgate favourite. I'd do that too Apart from his role in the goals Shaw was very poor going forward, we should look for more vs Ukraine And saka + grealish on the left has always looked good before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: No. Jack kane sterling Saka Rice Mount Trippier Mings Maguire Stones Pickford No chance for Mings, Walker is a Southgate favourite. Walker is a cheat code with his recovery pace and has great experience. No chance he doesn't start. How is Shaw getting hooked? Playing your best ball playing marauding CB between two CBs. Okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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