ciggiesnbeer Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: All this 'runs in behind is nonsense'. How many sides are playing a defensive high line. England lack creativity and on the ball management not pace. Exactly. Scotland was not exactly over commiting. England couldnt run into space because there wasnt any. A better manager might have twigged that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted June 18, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Genie said: To have 16 teams for a knockout phase, it won’t work with 12. Have an extra group or two. Best third place is a nonsense and devalues the competition. Edited June 18, 2021 by Mark Albrighton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Actually agree with Souness, another low point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: All this 'runs in behind is nonsense'. How many sides are playing a defensive high line. England lack creativity and on the ball management not pace. England's problem is the type of football they play, not attributes or the lack of it. And that's a coaching issue. I suspect Dildo nose thought he could play MON ball to the final and survive on individual brilliance when needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, nick76 said: I know, they dont want a big team not in the knockout stages so like everything in football it's catering to the big teams whether club football or here international teams. With the potential of a couple of big teams in a group, they need to make allowance that in three games that a big team might only win one game so they make sure they go through! Too many teams qualifying - almost pointless having all the qualifying games - you pretty much know most of the qualifiers. It reminds me when Chris Eubank threw away his boxing career by beating a bunch of nobodies up and down the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: All this 'runs in behind is nonsense'. How many sides are playing a defensive high line. England lack creativity and on the ball management not pace. Correct. So should we sacrifice pace for more 'playmaker' types and then lack anyone to make those.runs in behind and down the channels. Those runs stretch teams and create space as a result. We need Jack at 10, that will solve the problem. Mount is great, but Jack in that no 10 is ESSENTIAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TRO Posted June 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) That was turgid.....slow, laboured, indecisive,passive, rubbish. he is playing reputations, not in form players. poor game management that. the team play like the manager.....cautious and avoid errors as the first objective.....that performance lacked courage and intensity. Edited June 18, 2021 by TRO 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 England need shooting if they think playing for 2nd is any sort of masterplan, apparently provisonal path is France QF and one of Italy/Belgium in SF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Genie said: Almost none, as we’d be a best placed 3rd Right now 4 other groups have 3 teams on 3 points. If they draw and we lose by 2 or 3 goals against the czech Republic we could lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Next game I'd completely switch up. Henderson - Mount Jack Sancho Kane/DLC Foden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Philosopher Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, nick76 said: No much issue with most of what you have said but you dont play players that have had poor form for ages like Sterling. He's not doing what you are saying, he's being poor on the ball and ineffective in games. He scored the goal the other day which clouds all that because it won the game and he did what I said he isnt doing so I look stupid but I have to think anybody watching him can see he's in such poor form at the moment and almost all the time isnt doing what he's in the team to do and hence why Pep dropped him and why Southgate should. Sancho has been poor in an England shirt. As I said Jack, Foden and Mount have to be in the team and the rest is up to whoever, if it has to be Sterling then fine but I wouldnt be picking him. Sterling played well against Croatia. His number last season was 15 goals and 12 assists. His form isn't as bad as is made out. The problem tonight was Sterling was either picking up the ball infront of the back four and have either to beat 2 or 3 players or play the ball back, or he got in between the lines (as he is best) but didn't have the support. Or the ball wasn't played early enough. The problem tonight was in central midfield not wide. Edited June 18, 2021 by Philosopher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: There is a non-trivial chance we don't get out of the group stage. Only 4 out of 6 teams that finish 3rd go through. And only this group and group f don't have 3 teams on 3+pts. There's no chance that 4 points isn't enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa_shere Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I don’t want to see Jack as no10. He skill comes from cutting in. Showing and and Speeding up off the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, HanoiVillan said: There's no chance that 4 points isn't enough. Maybe 10-15% chance that enough teams end up on 4pts that we could go out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I would like to apologise. I had done a load of betting today and had 22p left in my account pregame so I put it on a long shot (I thought) of No Goalscorer at 9.75 odds expecting to lose it. I am now very rich with £2.14 in my account. Yes you read that correctly a whole two pounds and fourteen pence...woohoo! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Also it must be said Scotland played six midfielders tonight, they set up to frustrate and not allow any space and it worked. The midfield 3, none are good under pressure, Jack would have changed that and made space others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Philosopher said: Sterling played well against Croatia. His number last season was 15 goals and 12 assists. His form isn't as bad as is made out. The problem tonight was Sterling was either picking up the ball infront of the back four and have either to beat 2 or 3 ayers or ay the ball back, or he got in in between the.lines as he is best but didn't have the support. Or the ball wasn't played early enough. The problem tonight was in central midfield not wide. Phillips and rice were......no where near their best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 So if we finish second in the group we potentially play Slovakia or Sweden, win it and we play France Portugal or Germany… Based on that shithouse of a performance tonight we’re already playing for second surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, nick76 said: I would like to apologise. I had done a load of betting today and had 22p left in my account pregame so I put it on a long shot (I thought) of No Goalscorer at 9.75 odds expecting to lose it. I am now very rich with £2.14 in my account. Yes you read that correctly a whole two pounds and fourteen pence...woohoo! I'd stick that on Grealish not starting against Czech 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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