Popular Post BOF Posted January 26 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted January 26 I hope he moves to Angers. That way we can all say Morgan "Don't Look Back In Angers". 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Recall Sanson! only he can save us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, KAZZAM said: Recall Sanson! only he can save us. Probably wouldn’t be the worst decision either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Just now, KAZZAM said: Recall Sanson! only he can save us. If we are trying to be serious, Dendonker would be the one to recall for Kamara, not Sanson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 54 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: If we are trying to be serious, Dendonker would be the one to recall for Kamara, not Sanson. Who’s the better looking out of the two? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I remember people making excuses for Gerrard like "well Smith didn't play him either, he must be crap", meanwhile he was injured for 95% of his time with Smith. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 DS didn't rate him either but Gerrard just gave up on him after the Man. United error which was disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: I remember people making excuses for Gerrard like "well Smith didn't play him either, he must be crap", meanwhile he was injured for 95% of his time with Smith. This quote was circling like a month or two ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Keyblade said: I remember people making excuses for Gerrard like "well Smith didn't play him either, he must be crap", meanwhile he was injured for 95% of his time with Smith. Has a manager ever been so universally disliked by players and fans alike as Gerrard? Even our worst managers have had redeemable qualities but Gerrard just seems to be an utterly unpleasant arrogant idiot. We've had managers in the past who were well out of their depth at Villa Park but still were still likeable to some degree even though everyone wanted them replaced (I'm thinking Lambert/McLeish/DiMatteo/Bruce). It's one thing to be aloof and ignorant toward the players if you can actually achieve results. Capello was that type of manager - Gerrard definitely not. Sherwood was way out of his depth and his ego was off the charts but he seemed to have a good relationship with most of his players and I don't remember him throwing them under the bus like Gerrard. Not one of our players has had a good word to say about Stevie G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted February 22 VT Supporter Share Posted February 22 (edited) 5 minutes ago, El-Reacho said: Has a manager ever been so universally disliked by players and fans alike as Gerrard? Beale. Sunderland. See any connection? Edited February 22 by choffer Typo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, choffer said: Beal. Sunderland. See any connection? Lol - I remember him doing the media rounds after SG was sacked saying how badly the players had let him down and that the squad lacked any real quality..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, El-Reacho said: Has a manager ever been so universally disliked by players and fans alike as Gerrard? Even our worst managers have had redeemable qualities but Gerrard just seems to be an utterly unpleasant arrogant idiot. We've had managers in the past who were well out of their depth at Villa Park but still were still likeable to some degree even though everyone wanted them replaced (I'm thinking Lambert/McLeish/DiMatteo/Bruce). It's one thing to be aloof and ignorant toward the players if you can actually achieve results. Capello was that type of manager - Gerrard definitely not. Sherwood was way out of his depth and his ego was off the charts but he seemed to have a good relationship with most of his players and I don't remember him throwing them under the bus like Gerrard. Not one of our players has had a good word to say about Stevie G. Probably Lambert? When guys like Darren Bent say you're his worst manager (and he's had the likes of Bruce, Pardew etc), I can't imagine too many other people at the club liked him very much. But yeah, Gerrard's unlikeability is made more perplexing by the fact that he is very bad at his job. I imagine he struts around the place like he's Jose, with nothing to back it up. Was probably for the better for Morgan, he wouldn't have wanted to get back up to speed in the PL covering Lucas Digne for 90 minutes every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 8 hours ago, VillaChris said: DS didn't rate him either but Gerrard just gave up on him after the Man. United error which was disappointing. Based on zero evidence or quotes from Dean. As was stated earlier by @Keyblade Sanson was being played by Deano after he joined, then got injured and was just coming back fit when Dean was sacked. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, CVByrne said: Based on zero evidence or quotes from Dean. As was stated earlier by @Keyblade Sanson was being played by Deano after he joined, then got injured and was just coming back fit when Dean was sacked. All while adjusting to a new league/country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Gerrard destroyed a man's career and tanked about a £8m valuation off a player just to prove some garbage point or show he was the man. Sanson could have got minutes. Could have tried to get him up to speed around that time off the bench. He'd go months without a fair crack. word removed of a man. I hope they meet one day in a masters game and he snaps Gerrard in two. Horrific human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 23 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Gerrard destroyed a man's career and tanked about a £8m valuation off a player just to prove some garbage point or show he was the man. Sanson could have got minutes. Could have tried to get him up to speed around that time off the bench. He'd go months without a fair crack. word removed of a man. I hope they meet one day in a masters game and he snaps Gerrard in two. Horrific human being. And the exact same thing could have happened to Douglas Luiz. It's a miracle we got him to sign a new contract while Gerrard was still here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Gerrard is the worst manager we have ever had, and I've been supporting Aston Villa since the 50's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 hours ago, CVByrne said: Based on zero evidence or quotes from Dean. As was stated earlier by @Keyblade Sanson was being played by Deano after he joined, then got injured and was just coming back fit when Dean was sacked. So would you say that the sacking of Dean and the appointment of SG was big factor in Morgan leaving? Or does it go further than that? If so are the club ultimately to blame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Saw glimpses of what Sanson could offer but it could just be he wasn’t suited to this league. It’s a shame he never got to really find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, CVByrne said: Based on zero evidence or quotes from Dean. As was stated earlier by @Keyblade Sanson was being played by Deano after he joined, then got injured and was just coming back fit when Dean was sacked. There was a thing at Arsenal when Sanson was seen throwing a water bottle in anger at not coming on when we were 3-0 down. Just checked Soccerbase and he was absent from DS final two matches, 4-1 loss v West Ham and 1-0 v Southampton. Perhaps he picked up another injury but I'm sure it was debated a fair bit here (not going to go through 300 pages just now) he'd been left out for disciplinary reasons. We lost DS final five games with some really poor midfield performances so that would've been a good time to give him a run but I think DS was a little too loyal to someone like McGinn in his final few months (given SJM generally in 2021 was nowhere near the standard he is at currently) and Ramsey was being played more as a central midfield when he broke through so perhaps the space just wasn't there. 2-0 up v Wolves aswell, DS put Nakamba on after 67 minutes and Sanson remained an unusued sub so pretty clear in that period that Nakamba was ahead in the pecking order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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