Don_Simon Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 16 hours ago, TreeVillan said: Great player, shame it didn't work out. "Great' is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon66 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 5 hours ago, striker said: Made of glass and not strong enough for the rigours of the Premiership. ....I know, but enough about Calvert-Lewin......what do you think of Sanson ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 18 hours ago, TreeVillan said: Great player, shame it didn't work out. If he was actually a great player it would have worked out here. There's a reason he was never a regular in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 41 minutes ago, villa89 said: If he was actually a great player it would have worked out here. There's a reason he was never a regular in the team. This is via multiple managers as well. I liked what I saw from him in bits as well, but there must be a reason for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted January 18 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18 He's just too damn sexy; he makes it hard (KW) for teammates to concentrate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 31 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: This is via multiple managers as well. I liked what I saw from him in bits as well, but there must be a reason for this. There is, the French league is his level. He's not good enough to make the step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 8 minutes ago, villa89 said: There is, the French league is his level. He's not good enough to make the step up. Which is largely due to his approach to the game IMO. He doesn't seemingly follow instructions but rather just does whatever he thinks is best at any given time, which is immensely frustrating for managers. The technical ability is undoubtedly there but you can't have a CM in the prem that you don't really trust or can rely on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 2 hours ago, villa89 said: If he was actually a great player it would have worked out here. There's a reason he was never a regular in the team. Thats not how football works though. Better players than Sanson have failed at different clubs and not been a regular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 58 minutes ago, lexicon said: Which is largely due to his approach to the game IMO. He doesn't seemingly follow instructions but rather just does whatever he thinks is best at any given time, which is immensely frustrating for managers. The technical ability is undoubtedly there but you can't have a CM in the prem that you don't really trust or can rely on. What evidence do you have of this? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: This is via multiple managers as well. I liked what I saw from him in bits as well, but there must be a reason for this. Was injured a lot under Smith and still adjusting to the league. Gerrard clearly didn't like him, even though he said something like 'I know about Sanson, he'll be a big player for us'. By the time Emery came in he was crying out for some game time and confidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 hour ago, villa89 said: There is, the French league is his level. He's not good enough to make the step up. I don't know, he'd have done well at somewhere like Brentford or Brighton imo. The issue back then is we were so welded to McGinn-Luiz it was difficult for him to break through. Of course both are doing brilliantly now but back then we were finishing bottom half so there should've been an opportunity for him to get more game time than he did. Ramsey also started breaking around that time and was a CM when that happened so that also bumped Morgan down the pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 38 minutes ago, Tom13 said: What evidence do you have of this? His villa performances under several different managers who all found him seemingly frustrating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 8 hours ago, lexicon said: His villa performances under several different managers who all found him seemingly frustrating. He started what 4-5 games for us? A couple under Smith in the lockdown season. Then those two for Slippy against Chelsea and Man. United. Emery gave him the sentimental last few minutes v Man. United and that was it so no idea how he can really be judged as to how good his all round game was or wasn't. Ultimately all the managers just preferred McGinn. If we'd signed him a year earlier when SJM was out injured long term he would've had a run of starts to impose himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Is there any evidence pointing toward him simply not settling well in England/Midlands? That could've been his banana skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 3 hours ago, VillaChris said: He started what 4-5 games for us? A couple under Smith in the lockdown season. Then those two for Slippy against Chelsea and Man. United. Emery gave him the sentimental last few minutes v Man. United and that was it so no idea how he can really be judged as to how good his all round game was or wasn't. Ultimately all the managers just preferred McGinn. If we'd signed him a year earlier when SJM was out injured long term he would've had a run of starts to impose himself. There had to be a reason why he didn't play much and in the times we did see him, he was all over the place positionally IMO. Emery is an expert on spotting a player he can work with a develop and Sanson obviously did not feature in that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, lexicon said: There had to be a reason why he didn't play much and in the times we did see him, he was all over the place positionally IMO. Emery is an expert on spotting a player he can work with a develop and Sanson obviously did not feature in that category. i remember seeing an interview with Emery, where he said something like, i like Sanson, he has the ability to play how i like, but it is hard for him to get in the starting 11 with how they are performing, but Morgan wanted first team football, so we let him go on loan. or something like that. he prob could be a decent squad player tbh, but, it prob suits both parties to get 5m for him, and get his wages off the books so Emery can reinvest it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 1 minute ago, MaVilla said: i remember seeing an interview with Emery, where he said something like, i like Sanson, he has the ability to play how i like, but it is hard for him to get in the starting 11 with how they are performing, but Morgan wanted first team football, so we let him go on loan. or something like that. he prob could be a decent squad player tbh, but, it prob suits both parties to get 5m for him, and get his wages off the books so Emery can reinvest it. He's not going to say 'he's a useless shite that boy' now, is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Just now, lexicon said: He's not going to say 'he's a useless shite that boy' now, is he? probably not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jas10 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Better than nothing, get it done and let’s move on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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