WooJung Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Spoony said: Maybe we should give him a chance? He came to the country, was immediately locked down due to a global pandemic and now he is expected to immediately hit the ground running in a team hopelessly flailing to stay up. I’ll be patient with him. Will be interesting to see what he does in the championship. I don't think it's fair we expect him to hit the ground running. We just expect a bit more. Because he's been terrible, especially since the restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 At least with Luiz at the start of the season we saw glimpses of quality. Samatta isn't showing anything. He's just been shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Got left for dead in a foot race with Joel Ward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 According to Wikipedia he's 27 and this is the list of teams he has played for before joining us: Simba SC TP Mazembe Genk If he was any use he wouldn't have been playing at that level for so long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, villa89 said: According to Wikipedia he's 27 and this is the list of teams he has played for before joining us: Simba SC TP Mazembe Genk If he was any use he wouldn't have been playing at that level for so long. Have to agree he's dog shit, I thought Wes was bad but this guy is worse. Not even sure he'll cut it in the Championship maybe on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momo Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 He was good at the start of the season. It was easy to see way he was brought in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 His Genk show reel is pretty good. He might be struggling with adapting/getting up to speed. Benteke was strong and physical and made for the Prem when he came (Benteke being a good comparison as they came from the same team). Samatta is a different kind of player entirely. I've never been impressed tbh, but giving him a positive spin and a chance in the future. I would 100% play Davis ahead of him against Everton/Arsenal/West Ham though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 14 hours ago, zab6359 said: Have to agree he's dog shit, I thought Wes was bad but this guy is worse. Not even sure he'll cut it in the Championship maybe on the bench. Nah, he's better than Wes. Early on he looked great. Makes good decisions a lot of the time. He's been sapped of confidence and is really struggling with the physical side of things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I think Wes I'd better and think there was alot to Wesley's Wesley's gameplay that made a huge difference for us on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 16 hours ago, zab6359 said: Have to agree he's dog shit, I thought Wes was bad but this guy is worse. Not even sure he'll cut it in the Championship maybe on the bench. Samatta would bang them in at that level. Ally was scoring in the Champions League in the last twelve months, it’s a different world but I’d say in the Championship we could be looking at maybe 15-20 a season. For comparison do you reckon James Collins (the striker, not the ginger defender) or Daniel Johnson, who are banging in a very decent 10-15ish Championship goals with Luton and Preston, could slot into a CL team?! Not a chance. IMHO you’re being much too harsh on a fairly new signing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2020 I'm genuinely baffled at how Villa fans can go from "Looks the real deal" "So much better than Wesley" "A real striker" "What a bargain" " When he settles we will have some player on our hands" To "Absolute dog shit" Within weeks. Villa fans in a nutshell. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I think he’s shown some quality, he’s very brave and strong in the air, to coin a phrase he’ll put his head in where others wouldn’t put their feet. He has pedigree, he’s scored in the Champions League against Liverpool and we only paid a reported £8.5m for him, some posters seem to not rate him, I’m not one of them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Enda said: Samatta would bang them in at that level. Ally was scoring in the Champions League in the last twelve months, it’s a different world but I’d say in the Championship we could be looking at maybe 15-20 a season. For comparison do you reckon James Collins (the striker, not the ginger defender) or Daniel Johnson, who are banging in a very decent 10-15ish Championship goals with Luton and Preston, could slot into a CL team?! Not a chance. IMHO you’re being much too harsh on a fairly new signing. Being in a CL team isn't really a mark of quality tbh. The variation in quality is massive and you could make a case that the Belgium league isn't even Championship level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I'm genuinely baffled at how Villa fans can go from "Looks the real deal" "So much better than Wesley" "A real striker" "What a bargain" " When he settles we will have some player on our hands" To "Absolute dog shit" Within weeks. Villa fans in a nutshell. Because he did look good when he first came in. And part of it was probably because some of us were desperate to see him succeed to show how much better he was than Wesley. I'll admit, I was one of them. That said, he has been absolute dog shit this last couple of weeks, at a time where we really need our strikers to not be absolute dog shit. Whether he'll improve eventually, its too soon to tell. But the early signs are not looking good. I genuinely think Wesley is better than him at this point, although not by much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 Samatta should stay if/when we go down, the gap in quality in the championship might help him settle into life in England. I can see him improving in the championship and scoring around the 10 - 12 mark, if we can actually get some decent crosses into him. I’d hope that we sign a new striker, because as much as Samatta, Wesley and Davis all have some potential, we will need goals from the off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 His hold up play has been good throughout the return, he's getting into some good spaces, it'll come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 14, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: Because he did look good when he first came in. And part of it was probably because some of us were desperate to see him succeed to show how much better he was than Wesley. I'll admit, I was one of them. That said, he has been absolute dog shit this last couple of weeks, at a time where we really need our strikers to not be absolute dog shit. Whether he'll improve eventually, its too soon to tell. But the early signs are not looking good. I genuinely think Wesley is better than him at this point, although not by much. I think mostly if he gets back to full fitness will be devastating in the championship. I just think he’s one of those pies that needs a good bedding down and settling in period, pretty much like JPA did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think he’s shown some quality, he’s very brave and strong in the air, to coin a phrase he’ll put his head in where others wouldn’t put their feet. He has pedigree, he’s scored in the Champions League against Liverpool and we only paid a reported £8.5m for him, some posters seem to not rate him, I’m not one of them I think it's just his strength he needs to work on for this League. As I said my Tanzanian mate thought that would be the only issue he would have. Again though, because of our "budget", we have had to make do with "Almost" players, ones we can improve and strengthen, not the full package. So we need to be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I think tomorrow Samatta will be our hero. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 On 14/07/2020 at 10:40, Enda said: Samatta would bang them in at that level. Ally was scoring in the Champions League in the last twelve months, it’s a different world but I’d say in the Championship we could be looking at maybe 15-20 a season. For comparison do you reckon James Collins (the striker, not the ginger defender) or Daniel Johnson, who are banging in a very decent 10-15ish Championship goals with Luton and Preston, could slot into a CL team?! Not a chance. IMHO you’re being much too harsh on a fairly new signing. Both those mentioned would cut it in the Belgium league like Samatta it's dog shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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