lapal_fan Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: In many, many ways the Netherlands is way ahead of other countries in some things, drugs, family life, environmental, health and child safety as a few examples. Things like the Black Pete thing though, its like living in a Carry on film for a day. Utterly indefensible and embarrassing. Does it seem to come from a "certain type of person", the people standing up for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 15, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 15, 2021 That's mental. I fully laughed when I saw the pictures. I wasn't expecting something so blatantly racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 16, 2021 22 hours ago, lapal_fan said: Does it seem to come from a "certain type of person", the people standing up for it? Sorry for late reply, done a bit of research. It's a good question which deserves an answer. The overall consensus seems to indicate that they are all, without exception, words removed. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted November 16, 2021 Moderator Share Posted November 16, 2021 I lived in the Netherlands for a little while and, unaware of the tradition, was flabbergasted when a group of these words removed came bounding into the office lobbing sweets at everyone. When asking a local what was going on I was told that Santa comes from Spain in his ship with his little black helpers. If the kids have been good they get presents and sweets, and if they've been bad they get coal and are bundled into the black dude's sack to be taken back to Spain. The whole thing is **** crackers from start to finish. Also, here's a NSFW video (potty mouth) where a Dutch filmmaker tested the concept in London and even bumped into Russell Brand in a park... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: The whole thing is **** crackers from start to finish. They give the presents out on the 5th December also (Not much either, rubbish stocking fillers etc). So nothing really happens on the 25th except in my granddaughters world. She stays at my house for a proper xmas on the 24th / 25th. I make it so its like if we lived in Brum When I piggy back her upstairs on 25th morning she is shaking with excitement if the milk and cookies have gone. I don't know much but I know xmas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 16, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: They give the presents out on the 5th December also (Not much either, rubbish stocking fillers etc). So nothing really happens on the 25th except in my granddaughters world. She stays at my house for a proper xmas on the 24th / 25th. I make it so its like if we lived in Brum When I piggy back her upstairs on 25th morning she is shaking with excitement if the milk and cookies have gone. I don't know much but I know xmas. @bickster when he reads this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: @bickster when he reads this Oh No. What have I done ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Easy to laugh at other countries with their daft offensive traiditions, but sobering to think of this kind of thing in the UK. It's easy to hide your head in the sand and think we're (sorry) whiter than white, when you're a white bloke never subject to this kind of thing 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: Easy to laugh at other countries with their daft offensive traiditions, but sobering to think of this kind of thing in the UK. It's easy to hide your head in the sand and think we're (sorry) whiter than white, when you're a white bloke never subject to this kind of thing Saw him in that meeting at the inquest on tv today, heart absolutely broke for him. Incredibly brave, proud yet humble man. Hope he gets the justice he deserves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: Easy to laugh at other countries with their daft offensive traiditions, but sobering to think of this kind of thing in the UK. It's easy to hide your head in the sand and think we're (sorry) whiter than white, when you're a white bloke never subject to this kind of thing Thanks for posting, I’ve seen this bubbling away on the news but I’ve not really given it much attention, didn’t realise the scale of what was happening. Incredibly brave from him to open up about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 God, I knew cricket was bad, didn't know it was quite that bad. That was a tough watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Whats the expression 'Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones' Rafiq anti semitic tweets 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Azeem Rafiq has now had to apologize himself for racist/ant-semetic messages he sent in 2011, not good enough, if he thinks a apology is okay, it's not gonna be okay for Yorkshire Cricket is it! This is what he is fighting for. I'll await more to come out on him, everyone knows he gave as good as he got. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Seat68 Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 I am not bothered by anti semitism but I really dislike Asians so it pleases me greatly that I can be outraged by a cricketers anti semitism. I can discount the dogs abuse he got as a result. Hoorah for anti semitism. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 What a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 it doesn't excuse Yorkshire Cricket club and its racism and abuse of the player , anyone using this revelation as some of justification is wider of the mark than a Keinan Davis shot on goal but , it doesn't reflect well on him , it would be like finding out Great Thunburg stays in a hotel room and runs the air conditioning with the window open He was 19 , apologised , made the right noises about regretting it , so nothing to see here ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Azeem Rafiq has now had to apologize himself for racist/ant-semetic messages he sent in 2011, not good enough, if he thinks a apology is okay, it's not gonna be okay for Yorkshire Cricket is it! This is what he is fighting for. I'll await more to come out on him, everyone knows he gave as good as he got. I think anyone claiming equivalence between Rafiq's AS jokes and P*ki jokes is on a simple level correct. But that is where the equivalence ends - Rafiq was discriminated against, for his skin colour and heritage and that in law is a different kettle of fish entirely. But I'll stand corrected if it comes out that Rafiq went around pinning 15 year old jews and force-feeding them pork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 It's not right and good he apologised, but I think this story about an offensive message from a decade ago has said a lot more about the kinds of people revelling in its reveal than it does Rafiq. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 No one is saying it justifies the racism he endured. But I'm expecting more to come out on him. Rumour is, he gave as good as he got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Relax guys, we’ve got some dirt on that bloke calling out racism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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