Racism Part two

[chrisp65]

4 minutes ago, fruitvilla said:

I am trying to make the point ... that not everyone thinks being called a Brit is a positive thing. You don't know how much of a gotcha I think it is. If you do please explain it. 

I understand Paki is used a slur. It is also used as an abbreviation of Pakistani. And actually the word Paki is quite nice as it apparently derives from the Farsi word for Pure. But I agree the average Brit won't actually bother to look up the etymology of the word Pak.

Incidentally, the suffix stan also comes from the Farsi ... it has a fanciful literal translation, but effectively it means province.

It’s nice to know words.

It’s also nice to accept the ‘p word’ is a racist slur. If you’re in the UK and using it as an abbreviation of Pakistani, you’re being knowingly ignorant as a defence for your use of a racist term.

As it happens, I wouldn’t naturally refer to myself as a ‘Brit’, but whether I like that description or not, and I’m not a big fan, it’s a million miles away from the same level of offence.

 

[lapal_fan]

Any word can be made racist, if used in the right context.

I doubt the decent folk shouting things like "go home you paki bastard!" Were thinking of the "pure" aspects of the word.

I used to call my school friend Ashfaq paki, and he used to call me whitey or other such things.  It's racist on both ends, but it was our little "thing"? Used endearingly.  He was the only mate I'd say that too.  And I wouldn't say it now..  this was maybe 16 years ago.  It's wrong.

 

 

[Ingram85]

Listening to Vaughan blag his way through the bbc interview. Sounds like a man who has been caught out but can’t admit and own what he did.

[HanoiVillan]

someone needs to tell matthew parris he already made his point in the times and he can pack it in now

 

[Chindie]

20 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

someone needs to tell matthew parris he already made his point in the times and he can pack it in now

 

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'kin hell.

[sidcow]

Is it me or has the ludicrous booing of the taking of the knee before kick off finally died? I've heard nothing but clapping the last few games. 

Vindication for the keep it going campaign, it's shut up the clearings in the woods and not let them win.

[Wainy316]

10 hours ago, sidcow said:

Is it me or has the ludicrous booing of the taking of the knee before kick off finally died? I've heard nothing but clapping the last few games. 

Vindication for the keep it going campaign, it's shut up the clearings in the woods and not let them win.

I've been to VP, St Mary's, Stamford Bridge and Spurs this season at not heard it at any.

I would assume Millwall still do it considering 99% of the fan base were against it (their forum was a horrifying read).

Edited December 3, 2021 by Wainy316

[PussEKatt]

When we played Palace I noticed their winger ( a black guy ) didnt kneel,what does that mean ?

[Seat68]

27 minutes ago, PussEKatt said:

When we played Palace I noticed their winger ( a black guy ) didnt kneel,what does that mean ?

Assuming it's Zaha, he doesn't kneel. He said something like (I could Google bit the exact wording is unimportant) it's a broader issue than just footballers. 

[sidcow]

2 hours ago, PussEKatt said:

When we played Palace I noticed their winger ( a black guy ) didnt kneel,what does that mean ?

Bad knees? 

[Davkaus]

8 minutes ago, sidcow said:

Bad knees? 

It's true, there's a song about it.

Plays out wide, he likes cheese,

Wilfried Zaha has bad knees.

 

[Rugeley Villa]

Watched a Louie Theroux documentary last night . He was in South Africa where the white folk there want their own republic . Was very interesting. I knew there was problems there , but didn’t fully know the history . Quite interesting country . They blame the British for the current situation . 

[Wainy316]

1 hour ago, Rugeley Villa said:

Watched a Louie Theroux documentary last night . He was in South Africa where the white folk there want their own republic . Was very interesting. I knew there was problems there , but didn’t fully know the history . Quite interesting country . They blame the British for the current situation . 

The beardy racist, Eugene Terre'Blanche got hacked to death a couple of years after that doc.

[Seat68]

Just now, Wainy316 said:

The beardy racist, Eugene Terre'Blanche got hacked to death a couple of years after that doc.

Windsor Davies gif is being searched for. 

[Rugeley Villa]

2 minutes ago, Wainy316 said:

The beardy racist, Eugene Terre'Blanche got hacked to death a couple of years after that doc.

Bloody hell . He came across as a very serious bloke .  

[bickster]

10 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said:

Bloody hell . He came across as a very serious bloke .  

That's a very polite way of saying Nazi word removed

[Rugeley Villa]

3 minutes ago, bickster said:

That's a very polite way of saying Nazi word removed

Oh yeah they were so one dimensional in their thinking you could not reason with them, although that one bloke who admitted he was racist wanted  whites and blacks to have equal rights, but said they shouldn’t mix . The bloke in question who got killed came across as pretty dangerous . 

[Wainy316]

This is another interesting racism related Louis Theroux episode.  That bit where Metzger goes on the piss in Mexico (Tijuana maybe) with Louis in tow sticks with me.

Louis and the Nazis (TV Movie 2003) - IMDb

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Louis Theroux travels to California to meet the man dubbed "the most dangerous racist in America"; Tom Metzger, his family and his publicity manager. Louis also meets 'Prussian Blue' an American white-nationalist preteen musical sibling duo.

 

Edited December 24, 2021 by Wainy316

[Follyfoot]

21 hours ago, Wainy316 said:

This is another interesting racism related Louis Theroux episode.  That bit where Metzger goes on the piss in Mexico (Tijuana maybe) with Louis in tow sticks with me.

Louis and the Nazis (TV Movie 2003) - IMDb

 

Are Lnyx and Lamb still going?

[HanoiVillan]

On 24/12/2021 at 00:12, Rugeley Villa said:

Watched a Louie Theroux documentary last night . He was in South Africa where the white folk there want their own republic . Was very interesting. I knew there was problems there , but didn’t fully know the history . Quite interesting country . They blame the British for the current situation . 

If you're interested in Terre'Blanche, it's also worth checking out two Nick Broomfield documentaries, The Leader, His Driver, and The Driver's Wife and the follow up His Big White Self.

As always with early Broomfield, you have to watch with a slightly skeptical eye, but they're very revealing of the mindset of politically committed supporters of apartheid. 

As an aside, the libel case that followed the release of the first film is objectively very funny - you can see why Tom Sharpe wrote the way he did - and you don't need to look too far for a description as Wikipedia has a good summary under the first film's entry.