Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted January 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Brentford can't stop winning. Go create a Brentford thread. Don't yank too hard 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Farlz said: Really hope he's wrong, whatever you think of Wesley this would be an absolute disaster for us ACL and MCL, were they awarded in the New Years Honours? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted January 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Brentford can't stop winning. The manager gets us a crucial win and all you can post on his thread is this. Poor form mate. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Tactical changes today and we won. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 1, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 1, 2020 Great from Smith today. Genuinely thought that formation change would be a disaster but credit to him and the players, they adapted quickly and we looked much much better for it. This formation allows us to play Grealish much higher, was almost playing as a second striker at times and he linked up with Wes really well. Burnley were pretty bad in the first half but you can only play against whats in front of you and we were on the front foot and took full advantage of the situation. There have been plenty of games this season where we haven't so it's excellent to see. Absolutely gutted for Wes and Heaton, what are the chances of having 2 players stretchered off in 1 game? For that to happen and for us to still see the game through showed excellent resiliency. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Brentford can't stop winning. Brentford lost to Milwall 2 days ago. Also, why are we talking about Brentford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Brentford can't stop winning. good for them. good for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, Graham t said: You must be the only person in the world who thinks Brian Clough did not understand football. I am all for people having a a different opinion than everybody else on the planet as it gives the rest of us something to laugh about. I suggest you find something to comment on. As I said, stop embarrassing yourself..... Some incredible mental gymnastics there, Graham. Tell me, do you use weather forecasts from decades ago too? I can just imagine you sitting in a deckchair drenched to the bone and insisting that it is in fact sunny, because meteorological legend Michael Fish told you it would be in 1976. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, osmark86 said: good for them. good for them. Because it stops him praising smith for getting a good win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted January 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, andym said: Whats the obsession with 'in game management', as though there's some magic switch available that Smith just has to flick to tilt a game back our way? The coaching staff do their work in the week, but once the players get out onto the pitch, its pretty much down to them implementing said plan and crucially having the will to win more than the opposition. Now i'm not saying subs or tactical switches can't turn a game, but for every time that does happen, there's probably 10 that is doesn't. And did Dyche make some mega genius tactical change today, or did Burnley players just step up their effort 2nd half? You also need the players available to change games and we don't. There's plenty of things to criticise smith for this season, for example the defensive organisation has been poor all season, particularly from crosses and set pieces which is clearly a training ground issue. But complaining today that we got outplayed for half the game (where Burnley only had 1 shot on target) and he did nothing - what did you want him to do? We are a poor team in a shocking run of form away to a solid side, we get 2 key injuries and all we have to replace them are championship players. We got the lead and gutted it out - that is usually described as a good away performance. Its fast becoming my pet hate. It's just an easy stick to criticise the manager with As though moving a player slightly or using a sub will always get you back dominating. We are a newly promoted team aiming to finish 17th. If we succeed most games will go like today 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Just now, mikeyp102 said: Because it stops him praising smith for getting a good win anything does that to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dudevillaisnice Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Now i'm not saying subs or tactical switches can't turn a game That’s exactly what it’s about though. It’s not about dominating the full game it’s about being in control and slowing down the game when needed for example 2nd half under the kosh. Grealish has the ability to do it and we have seen him do it this season. It’s not about constantly playing at 100 miles an hour. Sometimes just to take the sting out the game. Buying cheap free kicks etc is part of it. Some can call it cheating but that’s the nature of the beast which is the premier league. This is nothing new though, Dean himself keeps on saying it - we need to retain the ball better etc. It’s not a myth. Edit for some reason it’s not highlighted andym. Edited January 1, 2020 by dudevillaisnice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 The system we played today really suits us. I hope Deano sticks with it. We were superb in the first half and hung on when we needed to be strong late in the game. Huge win. You could see the confidence of the players increase during an impressive first half performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) so the 3-4-3 we played versus Burnley, from the highlights looked like the front 3 played much narrower (like an actual front 3 (1 striker, 2 inside forwards), rather than a striker and 2 wingers?), is that correct? If so, looks to suit us much better. Edited January 1, 2020 by MaVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Brentford can't stop winning. Danny Ings can't stop scoring and Liverpool keep winning.... what the hell has that got to do with Dean Smith ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 35 minutes ago, Graham t said: You must be the only person in the world who thinks Brian Clough did not understand football. I am all for people having a a different opinion than everybody else on the planet as it gives the rest of us something to laugh about. I suggest you find something to comment on. As I said, stop embarrassing yourself..... I think you're completely missing the subtlety of Clough's point. He didn't really mean that football was a simple game from the perspective of the coach. Clearly it isn't simple, or we wouldn't have world class coaches like Clough, Ferguson, Guardiola, Mourinho, Klopp, etc. who consistently outperform their competitors. He meant that overloading players with too many tactical ideas was counter productive. He kept his team talks and player instructions very simple. But he was a highly intelligent man and a lot of thought went into his tactics. I don't think football is a simple game at all, and I don't think Clough really thought that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Who gives a **** about Brentford this is Villatalk not Brentfordtalk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Mantis said: Who gives a **** about Brentford this is Villatalk not Brentfordtalk. This. We should only talk about Brentford when we are signing their best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Its fast becoming my pet hate. It's just an easy stick to criticise the manager with As though moving a player slightly or using a sub will always get you back dominating. We are a newly promoted team aiming to finish 17th. If we succeed most games will go like today I'm glad, you see it for what it is. It's maybe the facet of his overall responsibilities which he has least control over in terms of having influence over proceedings. It's a contest that runs for 45 minutes at a time over two halves without adequate stoppage to discuss and tweak tactical approach significantly. In the event he can signal the captain or a player to notify the rest of the players that they are to switch the approach, then any changes have to of been well rehearsed prior. So in game management is essentially just a momentary notification to his team that something they have planned prior and on the assumption of it being successful should be used. There is not time to communicate that on this occasion things are going a certain way because of this, that, or something else, and to adjust accordingly we do this for said reason. You can only instruct predetermined ways and means of successfully influencing a match in your favour, and hoping that they are adequately honed for what is currently transpiring. Outside of half time team talk, and making good substitutions, there's not a whole lot of weight behind in-game management. Don't get me wrong, it can play a role, a big one if done correctly, but the preparation and genius behind it all done well before the heat of the moment in any given fixture. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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