villalad21 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Just now, Rightdm00 said: I usually ignore you but pissing on a performance like that is so annoying. How is Smith supposed to change it? El Ghazi has been poor, he brought on Kodija and we went down to 10 men. What is Smith to do? You had enough fun these last couple games let us enjoy this one. I'm not a flip flop like certain fans are. I'm not reactionary. Won't change my view based on 1 game. Smith has not shown anywhere that he is able to organize a defense. That's why i'm still Smith out. Buzzing with the win but still massively concerned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danishlad Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Good decision to abandon the 3 man midfield. Especially as McGinn is injured. Well done today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Anyone who saw the match at the end would've seen Purslow run up to Smith and put his arms around him and say ''that was fantastic, well done'' On the evidence of that, it seems to me he is not going to go anywhere other than VP anytime soon. That and the recent contract extension say's he's got the backing of the management. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wazzap24 Posted January 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2020 You cant expect to dominate games for 90mins at this level with the players we have. It’s like some of you don’t actually watch football. How many times do you see one team dominate a half, then the opposition makes changes/gets a bollocking and the 2nd half is completely different? It happens literally all the time in games, from the top to the bottom. You have to take your chances when you’re on top and dig in and defend properly when you aren’t - we did that today and got the result we deserved. The fact Burnley improved in the 2nd half was not down to anything Smith did wrong, that’s just nonsense. 14 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: Apart from 1 or 2 chances in the second half we were on the back foot from start to finish, does not show Smith to be tactically aware at all. Good first half but not convinced yet he can save our season. Second half was a bit concerning in that we never really looked intent on trying to retain possession and build an attack, but doing that would've required committing men forward. Had we played an outfit with more ability to ask questions of our resoluteness we might've conceded that second goal we were all dreading, but we didn't, they had very little to offer. That said, I think you have to say Smith was quite tactically aware, especially when you appreciate that the above was the worst of our performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, wazzap24 said: You cant expect to dominate games for 90mins at this level with the players we have. It’s like some of you don’t actually watch football. How many times do you see one team dominate a half, then the opposition makes changes/gets a bollocking and the 2nd half is completely different? It happens literally all the time in games, from the top to the bottom. You have to take your chances when you’re on top and dig in and defend properly when you aren’t - we did that today and got the result we deserved. The fact Burnley improved in the 2nd half was not down to anything Smith did wrong, that’s just nonsense. Exactly. It's as if it's all down to us and there isn't another team playing or anything. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Really hope he's wrong, whatever you think of Wesley this would be an absolute disaster for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Just now, Farlz said: Really hope he's wrong, whatever you think of Wesley this would be an absolute disaster for us Doesn't sound like he is basing that on anything other than guesswork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, wazzap24 said: You cant expect to dominate games for 90mins at this level with the players we have. I agree but that’s where game management comes in and part of is retaining the ball and making the right decisions etc. Slowing down the game etc.. We panic a lot and it really hasn’t improved. We don’t quite have the nous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham t Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 On 31/12/2019 at 11:58, lexicon said: Brian Clough can't disagree because he's been dead for 15 years and you shouldn't presume to speak for him. In any case, he stopped managing 26 years ago and in his last season Forest were relegated - it looked as though the modern game was already getting away from him. It is not a 'simple game' now - it's evolved way beyond that. Sorry, you don't know what you are talking about. Brain Clough was the greatest manager of all time. I will take his opinion over yours if you don't mind, embarrassing ....... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Graham t said: Sorry, you don't know what you are talking about. Brain Clough was the greatest manager of all time. I will take his opinion over yours if you don't mind, embarrassing ....... 'Brain' Clough has never opined on the modern game of football and nor will he ever be able to because he's been dead for 15 years - there's nothing to take there. Edited January 1, 2020 by lexicon 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: I agree but that’s where game management comes in and part of is retaining the ball and making the right decisions etc. Slowing down the game etc.. We panic a lot and it really hasn’t improved. We don’t quite have the nous. Totally agree, but I think that was more down to experience and confidence on the pitch, rather than mis-management. He was screaming at them to keep the ball, but when confidence is low and you’re holding on to a narrow lead, pressure tends to get the better of players. I fully expected Burnley to come out firing in that 2nd half, just as I’d have expected a reaction from us had it been the other way around. Even though we were on the back foot 2nd half, we still had a couple of chances to put the game to bed and looked decent on the break. It was an almost perfect away performance in many ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, lexicon said: 'Brain' Clough has never opined on the modern game of football and nor will he ever be able to because he's been dead for 15 years - there's nothing to take there. I agree with this, and I'm a Clough fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, av1 said: Doesn't sound like he is basing that on anything other than guesswork. Yep, talking shite, no respectable medical professional would make a diagnosis off such ambiguous 'evidence'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham t Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 You must be the only person in the world who thinks Brian Clough did not understand football. I am all for people having a a different opinion than everybody else on the planet as it gives the rest of us something to laugh about. I suggest you find something to comment on. As I said, stop embarrassing yourself..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andym Posted January 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 1, 2020 Whats the obsession with 'in game management', as though there's some magic switch available that Smith just has to flick to tilt a game back our way? The coaching staff do their work in the week, but once the players get out onto the pitch, its pretty much down to them implementing said plan and crucially having the will to win more than the opposition. Now i'm not saying subs or tactical switches can't turn a game, but for every time that does happen, there's probably 10 that is doesn't. And did Dyche make some mega genius tactical change today, or did Burnley players just step up their effort 2nd half? You also need the players available to change games and we don't. There's plenty of things to criticise smith for this season, for example the defensive organisation has been poor all season, particularly from crosses and set pieces which is clearly a training ground issue. But complaining today that we got outplayed for half the game (where Burnley only had 1 shot on target) and he did nothing - what did you want him to do? We are a poor team in a shocking run of form away to a solid side, we get 2 key injuries and all we have to replace them are championship players. We got the lead and gutted it out - that is usually described as a good away performance. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I thought we were superb in the first half. The second half was poor although we were also much more compact and sturdy than we have been for a while. I'm glad he changed the system today although I think he could've helped himself by using this early in the season, especially for away games. Smith may also realise now that the team are far more adaptable to system changes than he thought they would be. All in all a great win and hopefully the catalyst for a change in weekly performances and attitude on and off the pitch leading into the New Year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, wazzap24 said: You cant expect to dominate games for 90mins at this level with the players we have. It’s like some of you don’t actually watch football. How many times do you see one team dominate a half, then the opposition makes changes/gets a bollocking and the 2nd half is completely different? It happens literally all the time in games, from the top to the bottom. You have to take your chances when you’re on top and dig in and defend properly when you aren’t - we did that today and got the result we deserved. The fact Burnley improved in the 2nd half was not down to anything Smith did wrong, that’s just nonsense. Thank you. Phrased it much better than I could. We still don't have a full 18 of quality players. Just want to mention that's the 2nd 1 goal margin game we have closed out successfully. Besides the corner Burnley did nothing in the last 15 minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 (edited) Very surprised at the line up, but big congrats Deano. He, like the players are learning the premier league. The change in formation is showing he can amend tactics to suit different teams. The rollicking he gave the team after Watford obviously worked. Edited January 1, 2020 by mikeyp102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Brentford can't stop winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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