Ben Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 We don't have enough quality up front on the bench, we need a striker who actually has scored a goal in his career coming on and giving us something different and Ming's has been poor and sloppy recently, he should of death with wood better before the scored their first goal, So frustrating to loose that game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leemond2008 Posted January 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2021 Someone mentioned Captain Hindsight earlier, I don't agree with that at all, I think that Smith picked the correct starting 11, but me, my Dad and 4 of my mates who I was messaging during the game were all screaming out for him to make a change, Smith seems to be fine with subs when we are on the front foot and playing well but he is too slow in changing things when we aren't, we've been fortunate that this season that hasn't been anywhere near as much of an issue as last season. p.s. whoever did mention captain hindsight it wasn't a direct dig at you, just pointing out that it wasn't just after the event that people were saying he should have made changes. Also...I think I prefer it when we can blame a loss of a **** up VAR decision 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 40 minutes ago, tom_avfc said: The lack of subs is a really lazy point to make. We were the better team comfortably and the players on our bench are all proven to be not very good. If he made the subs at 60 minutes or even at 2-1 up and we go on to lose then the same people would be questioning him for the subs. The time that I’ll moan at him for making late subs is when his best options don’t include a striker who never scores and a winger who’s best attribute is defending. We’re a very good first eleven now but a paper thin squad which is going to make having games twice a week more of an issue for us than many other teams in the league. 95% agree but he could've switched Bert out for El Ghazi who's been in fine form and let JJ have a run out - McGinn and Douglas weren't pulling up trees after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 27, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 27, 2021 He should have made changes at 2-1. Jack should have squared it, Olly should have scored a second in the first half, Mings should have put it out for a throw. Catalogue of errors cost us that game. Fuming. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, KAZZAM said: We are far to easy to beat. 7 losses this season already and I'm gonna be brutally honest and compare us to Leeds in that we are almost to gung ho. Should drop Barkley for Sanson and play a flatter midfield 3 in future games. The right cm should then also help with cover on the wing which we are prone to being double uppped on. Have zero issue with us losing a few more to win a few more. Only have to look back to some of the seasons in early 00s when it seemed like we drew nearly half the games during the season. In 00/01 we only lost 10 games but drew 15 and finished 8th on 54 points. 7 points off 6th which was a very realistic finishing position for us in those times. 01/02 we also finished 8th with 14 draws and just 12 wins = 50 points. Mad this season we could easily win more than 12 games and finish only about 10th. Get a point at Southampton and we'd still be on course for a 60 point season. Edited January 27, 2021 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 42 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Please please please Dean stop the zonal marking Something has to change there. It was comical how easy that first goal was for Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 46 minutes ago, tom_avfc said: Yeah fair enough. I would say that it’s easy to come on and criticise him for not making subs in hindsight having lost a game of football. We were criticising him for subs from 60 minutes when it was clear mcginn, barkley and traore were dead on their feet and well off it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 44 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Please please please Dean stop the zonal marking Do we not do that hybrid thing that most teams seem to do now? Midfielders sort of man marking but to block/disrupt, so when the ball comes into the box, Mings/Konsa should be able to get to it first? It looked like Luiz was given the job to block off Wood, but he basically stood aside and said 'have a free run at the ball' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 The only change I would have made is Nakamba for Ross and then going to a 433 with Nakamba or Douglas sitting. What they started doing was dropping the ball into the front man and going from there. They started to occupy the space where a number 6 usually sits. But the signing of Sanson gives us that tactical flexibility for Smith to make changes earlier if needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_avfc Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, AV82 said: 95% agree but he could've switched Bert out for El Ghazi who's been in fine form and let JJ have a run out - McGinn and Douglas weren't pulling up trees after all. Oh I don’t doubt he could have made subs. Whether they’d have had much impact on the game is questionable though. In reality we couldn’t deal with some pretty basic long balls and crosses and that cost us in the second half. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KenjiOgiwara Posted January 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2021 I am awed by the steps the club has taken under him. Bar city we play the most beautiful football in this league. By some distance. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I am awed by the steps the club has taken under him. Bar city we play the most beautiful football in this league. By some distance. A positive comment! Hurrah! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I am awed by the steps the club has taken under him. Bar city we play the most beautiful football in this league. By some distance. We are certainly exciting to watch. Commentators have been fawning over us last few games, Carragher in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PieFacE Posted January 27, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) Had some time to chill out and reflect on the game a little bit. I've firmly been in the "I think we'll finish midtable" camp all year, and that in itself would be massive progress from where we were last season. So with that in mind, we'll have more games like today throughout the season and we'll probably still comfortably finish mid table. The frustrations come because we're so close to being a really good team. Just need a couple more solid additions and we can then start thinking about pushing for Europe or whatever. Smith has still done an unbelievable job with us, and we're playing some of the best football I can remember at times. Rome wasn't built in a day. Edited January 27, 2021 by PieFacE 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 i just don't understand his reluctance to use subs. We saw Nakamba have a very good game on the weekend but he doesn't come on when it was clear that McGinn/Barkley were on tired legs right around halftime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 The only criticism is that he is not reactive enough and fails to make changes. Barkley and Traore should have been subbed sooner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Had some time to chill out and reflect on the game a little bit. I've firmly been in the "I think we'll finish midtable" camp all year, and that in itself would be massive progress from where we were last season. So with that in mind, we'll have more games like today throughout the season and we'll probably still comfortably finish mid table. The frustrations come because we're so close to being a really good team. Just need a couple more solid additions and we can then start thinking about pushing for Europe or whatever. Smith has still done an unbelievable job with us, and we're playing some of the best football I can remember at times. Rome wasn't built in a day. Jack himself said at the start 8 - 12 was probably the aim. Looking at the table, and teams above, 8th could very well be our 'title'. 9 place improvement that. Considering how much money everyone above us as spent over the years it would still be some feat. Still ALOT of season left to play and we could very well still go on a good run, whilst others fall off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 If we were more clinical we'd have won most games this season by 3 or 4. Looking at all our defeats in isolation only really Leeds last 30 minutes, Southampton first 25 minutes and the man city game where I thought we were heroic yet still dangerous for decent portions of the game , no team has outplayed us. We have been the better team in every game except the ones I've mentioned imo. Next season we'll be more clinical all over the park. Excellent work done by our coaches and players. But we need that last 2/3% from all of them except Jack who's easily one of the top 5 players in the world atm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Jack himself said at the start 8 - 12 was probably the aim. Looking at the table, and teams above, 8th could very well be our 'title'. 9 place improvement that. Considering how much money everyone above us as spent over the years it would still be some feat. Still ALOT of season left to play and we could very well still go on a good run, whilst others fall off. That’s true, I forgot that. Problem is, this season, the Europe spots are up for the taking from the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea. We need to take advantage of that. We still haven’t played half our season yet, plenty of hope yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, AV82 said: 95% agree but he could've switched Bert out for El Ghazi who's been in fine form and let JJ have a run out - McGinn and Douglas weren't pulling up trees after all. To put it mildly......They are not natural CDM's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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