Davkaus Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I think subs were a factor, but they don't tell the whole story, that second goal was ludicrous. It was clear that McGinn and Barkley were dead on their feet though, we should have changed it up much earlier IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, bobzy said: Trez came on and McNeil became even more of a threat so not entirely sure this is true. Because we had to score. If we made the change at 2-1 or 2-2 that wouldn't have been the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Burnley were never come out that poor in the second half, we were complacent.. it happens. Questioning Dean shouldn’t be seen as a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Rightdm00 said: People complaining about subs must have missed the first half. How would subbing attackers fix the fact our defense let in 3 very soft goals. Maybe because we would have kept the ball better or traore wouldn't have been on the pitch to let his man run for all 3 goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: How can anyone blame subs? Game should have been over at half time and they scored a cross. 2-1 up - it's a villa win all day long. No one saw that coming - there was no hint of Burnley equaliser - let alone a winner. Most games this season - Martinez stops those last 2 - can't really blame DS for not seeing that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Well, I dont know what to say really about that second half apart from gobsmacked. Fair play to Burnley they took it to us in the second half, but I felt we was hard done in the end and both teams deserved something from the game Again though, yes we scored two goals but we really should be scoring more from our chances and putting a couple more away with the shots we had. I'm a fair bit gutted by our second half performance and there was some very questionable defending where two goals could of easy been intercepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted January 27, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, lexicon said: We were in charge of the game at 2-1 and 3-1 was never a score that happened My confusion, in my irritable state. Burnley's subs had an impact, enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 We got our pocket picked through being complacent and lacking game discipline. Still much to learn and a reality check. We move on and hopefully get back on track asap.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Shit defending and not taking chances cost us. Anybody that knows anything about football would know that. edit: suppose it helps if you watch the games. I disagree a bit. Yeah we should've had the game wrapped up at half time but you're always going to get plenty of games over a season where that dosen't happen. I can understand holding off at 1-1 but when it's 2-2 and 15 minutes left there's the game still to be won and opportunity for fresh legs. Doubt anyone will want to but watch the 5 minutes again between 2-2 and 3-2, total lack of composure with us smashing miskicking clearances all over the pitch and ball constantly coming back to us, no foot hold when we needed to calm the game down a bit as I think Burnley would've taken 2-2 no danger. Didn't get him putting on Davis as a last resort either. His cameo wasn't pretty but not sure what he could do in three minutes. Either DS has faith in him or he dosen't so surely he should've been in the double sub change. This dosen't mean DS hasn't done a superb job all season but there are still things to improve on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Shit happens, fair play to Burnley, not sure how they did it but they were a combination of lucky and clinical while we were the opposite. Much like the West Ham game I'm disappointed but not discouraged, performance wise we're leaps and bounds ahead of where we were and it's only the fine margins that we're occasionally failing on at the moment. Only worry is that psychologically these games can be a big hit, important for us to really bounce back from it at the weekend. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, hippo said: 2-1 up - it's a villa win all day long. No one saw that coming - there was no hint of Burnley equaliser - let alone a winner. This all over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Shit defending and not taking chances cost us. Anybody that knows anything about football would know that. edit: suppose it helps if you watch the games. 6 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: One of the times when the delayed sub change trait he does actually backfired for us. He always seems to react late. Sorry not wanting to have a pop, but they are right in a sense. As I always say, its the only gripe I consistently have with Deano. YES, shit defending and not taking chances cost us, however changes SHOULD have been made earlier IMO. Changes obviously don't guarantee results either, but Barkley at least should have been off time ago. Dyche started making changes as they came back into the game, and his changes played a part in getting him the win. Anyway, we go again. UTV! Edited January 27, 2021 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Game should have been out of sight in the first half. The players lost this. You have to advantage of chances of that quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Genuinely curious as to how the defence, which has looked so solid all season, suddenly looked wobbly as soon as it faced long balls from a bunch of talentless orcs? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: How can you say this, Burnley's subs changed the match So its a guarantee us making subs stops that? This is the Laughable thing about the same people moaning about them. Its like FM/Fifa syndrome. It works on there so it must always work in real life. We missed endless chances. That's cost us the game. Not subs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Completely battered them in the first half but didn't take our chances, that's what has cost us 3 points tonight. Mid table would be great for me, I'm not thinking about Europe but if that's different for Villa and we want top 7/6 this season well results like that and a couple others this season are what will let us down. I've always thought we'll just eventually run out of steam and finish 10th or so but even still that's a really disappointing one tonight. We completely threw it away, haven't felt this let down from a Villa result in quite some time which I guess is a sign of progress. Southampton next as well who always manage to completely smash us. Not ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 On the whole, we don't really change our side that often and it's served us very well so far this season. I think the lack of subs is a fair criticism when the game is getting away from us and we're not changing things up. This was not tonight. It's just one of those games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, hippo said: 2-1 up - it's a villa win all day long. No one saw that coming - there was no hint of Burnley equaliser - let alone a winner. Most games this season - Martinez stops those last 2 - can't really blame DS for not seeing that. Its just the same people, who only tactical things they can moan at is subs. Like I said, its an easy moan for people who want a moan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LxYoungAVFC Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I love the guy but he still needs to improve on a few things. Make proactive subs and ditch the hybrid marking on corners. Can't believe he hasn't fixed these issues yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Mantis said: Genuinely curious as to how the defence, which has looked so solid all season, suddenly looked wobbly as soon as it faced long balls from a bunch of talentless orcs? They're pretty much the best in the business at those sort of goals. It's not something you face very often these days in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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