villa89 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 16 hours ago, Stratvillan said: He's not a playmaker. He's a box to box midfielder. These are just words. He's a midfielder full stop. This means that he should be able to get on the ball, make simple passes, link defence and attack and control the tempo of a game. From what I can see he doesn't do any of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted March 5, 2018 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 hours ago, lapal_fan said: Surely Young got 10 in one season? His last four seasons were 9, 9, 9, 9 which is also the German answer to your question The 09/10 season where Milner scored 12, only 7 of those were in the league. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 He does the dirty, unseen stuff and scores goals. I love him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: He does the dirty, unseen stuff and scores goals. I love him. I mostly do too, I just don't think he's quite realising his full potential. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 53 minutes ago, Risso said: I mostly do too, I just don't think he's quite realising his full potential. I guess its all about opinions but I think the opposite. I think he is doing about as much as he can given his ability. Which is no insult - I just dont think there much more to him.I do like though and his attitude is top class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Just scoring goals alone makes him an instant upgrade on anything we've had in centre midfield for a number of years 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 My comparision to an Yacouba Sylla with goals was a bit harsch, a more sober comparision would be Thomas Hitzelsperger when I think about it. He also popped up with some great goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, villa89 said: These are just words. He's a midfielder full stop. This means that he should be able to get on the ball, make simple passes, link defence and attack and control the tempo of a game. From what I can see he doesn't do any of that. Isn't this like saying Jack is a midfielder full stop, so should be able to do what Jedinak etc does? Edited March 5, 2018 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 hours ago, villa89 said: These are just words. He's a midfielder full stop. This means that he should be able to get on the ball, make simple passes, link defence and attack and control the tempo of a game. From what I can see he doesn't do any of that. Interesting you miss out scoring goals! I totally agree though, when we look back at our good teams we had 2/3 midfielders could did your definition and goals. who was the last midfielder we had who did all of those? Not wanting an argument but there's a chance that we criticise players who aren't top draw premier league players when we're not a club good enough to attract those players. Hourihane is never going to be a star man, but he is the type of player who makes a team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted March 5, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2018 High work rate and covers alot of ground. He has a good shot on him and can deliver a good set piece. He'snot good enough for the premier league but hes a strong championship player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigy1874 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 16 hours ago, tinker said: He'snot good enough for the premier league but hes a strong championship player. How do you know this? Can you pass on the games you have watched with him in the premier league so I can take a look please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 He reminds me a lot of Hitz. Same good qualities but also same limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted March 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Craigy1874 said: How do you know this? Can you pass on the games you have watched with him in the premier league so I can take a look please? A player doesn’t have to play in the premier league for someone to make a judgment on whether they are good enough for it or not. I’ve never played in the premier league but I don’t need to to tell you I’m not good enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 (edited) I would completely agree that he isn't good enough to be a week-in, week-out starter for a team chasing European places, but is he really massively worse than Ashley Westwood? Or Andy King? Or Joe Ledley? Edited March 6, 2018 by HanoiVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted March 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted March 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Craigy1874 said: How do you know this? Can you pass on the games you have watched with him in the premier league so I can take a look please? No 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Come on Conor. Take responsibility and lead us to a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Thought he had a very good game today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 On 06/03/2018 at 07:01, Keener window-cleaner said: My comparision to an Yacouba Sylla with goals was a bit harsch, a more sober comparision would be Thomas Hitzelsperger when I think about it. He also popped up with some great goals. Personally I think Hitz is one of the most overrated of our players in the last 2 decades. Conor is much better in general play imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heffoman Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 I think when people say hes not a premiership quality midfielder they have no clue what that means. There are an awful lot of journey men midfielders in the premiership. Glen Whelan up untill last year was premiership midfielder. Look at our own midfield the last couple of years in the Premiership for god sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, heffoman said: I think when people say hes not a premiership quality midfielder they have no clue what that means. There are an awful lot of journey men midfielders in the premiership. Glen Whelan up untill last year was premiership midfielder. Look at our own midfield the last couple of years in the Premiership for god sake. I can definitely tell you that wasn’t Premier League quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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