AndyC Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Once we are down I guess Randy will declare us to be back in a "state of transition" oh I can't wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 That is exactly the squad I expect to see next season (but no okore). They have no choice but to buy players come summer if all these players leave as we will only have about 11 players in the squad That would mean spending money and you know that doesn't fit in with this regime. Expect the manager ( who ever is in charge ) to be told to utilise the youth we have! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 On 12/28/2015 at 19:01, Richard said: How many points do you think we will finish with. I'm optimistically thinking 18 but I couldn't say how! I don't think so. The next time we hear from our glorious leader will be when he's completed a deal to sell up. He's got no interest (other than his financial one) in this club anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 9 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: We're not going to buy 25 new players in the summer. after the summer transfer campaign I could see Fox splashing out on 25 500k signings for the 1st team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1974Centenary Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Good news is Westwood will look better every division we drop down,hell be right at home in league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSmith22 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 This one really cuts deep. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Very good and so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Hypothetical question, say in 12 months Aston villa are top of the championship because not spending in January meant we could outspend our rivals in the championship, does this guy get any credit for forward planning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Just now, Jimzk5 said: Hypothetical question, say in 12 months Aston villa are top of the championship because not spending in January meant we could outspend our rivals in the championship, does this guy get any credit for forward planning? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 26 minutes ago, Jimzk5 said: Hypothetical question, say in 12 months Aston villa are top of the championship because not spending in January meant we could outspend our rivals in the championship, does this guy get any credit for forward planning? If we had spent the money.. we have had numerous of chances of closing the gap since January. We could have stayed up. He will get no credit whatsoever. Only credit he will get is when he sells the club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Jimzk5 said: Hypothetical question, say in 12 months Aston villa are top of the championship because not spending in January meant we could outspend our rivals in the championship, does this guy get any credit for forward planning? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Posted February 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) I try and convince myself i dont care anymore. I don't go to matches as frankly I have other things to do. I know thats an excuse and if I wanted to go I would but the last few times I went I came out saying to myself "was that worth it? what the **** was that about". To be brutally honest I have seen more matches in corporate for Villa in the last few seasons than paying for them, I'm a shit fan I get it. But I try and convince myself i dont care and it works to a degree. Then I dwell on AVFC. I think about all the years Ive supported them, the holidays I have come back early from, the miles I have put in, the money I have spent, the songs I have sung, the great times I have had at games, the tears I have shed. I think about all the emotion I have invested in Villa and I see what that complete and utter dickwad word removed Lerner and his team of dimwits have done to them and I get angry, god I get **** angry. It just gets to me. I try and make a few light hearted posts, gallows humour if you like. Like the mock press release phone ones yesterday, or other posts that people dont get and that is just to let the anger subside. But then I see more evidence of a total shambles at the club. Another day of ineptitude. Another player taking the piss out of the club and the fans and the anger comes back. We are a total and utter shambles and I trulky believe that this is a watershed for us. This season , relegation and where we are is the moment that we cease to be a top flight club for years to come. Thats because of the total mess we are, that it will take some rebuilding and the dimwits we have have no clue how to rebuild and also because the amount of insane money next season we will be behind every club in that league by some distance and also behind Middlesborough (it took a few years but turns out Southgate, Boateng and Ugo were right), Burnley and **** Hull in the pecking order. We will be miles behind and playing catchup. I do not believe we have a cat in hells chance of coming back in year one, in fact I honestly believe we will be struggling again. I think the currentl corporate strategy is cut it all back and rebuild once we have hit the lowest point and we are not at the lowest point yet We all have a different view on why we are a shambles, lack of money, too much money, bought the wrong players, not bought enough right players, poor manager wrongly backed, good manager not backed, poor manager not backed, poor back room staff, poor ceo, poor chairman, poor **** smart phones. The truth of the matter is that the culture at the club, the raison d'etre , the whole premise of the club is **** wrong RANDOLPH word removed FACE LERNER (10, 9 ,8 ,7 ,6 ,5, 4....and calm) Arrogant **** and those he employs in his likeness cannot see or accept they are wrong. They believe they know what is right and will keep on repeating the same mistakes expecting a different result. You are killing the club, that is not being too dramatic i honestly believe they are killing us. The fans are apathetic, the players are just pathetic and the whole club stinks . It needs a huge **** explosion of something to sort it. Lerner could not give one shit and I think that is why fans are apathetic. But he wins because we are not united , because we can not focus on a common theme. You know what I am laying down all my rivalries with anyone on here, ANYONE. I'm not going to carry on an old battle with fellow Villa fans anymore. I'll debate my point but I'll let it all go, all the old fights and tantrums on both sides because as long as we fight each other we do not fight for Villa. So Morley, Drat, Lexicon, latterly mwj and anyone else I have rowed with for what good it does I call a truce. If we care about this big old claret and blue lover that is Villa we all have to fight together, not each other. Edited February 20, 2016 by blandy swearing removed 35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 When if we go down, does anyone feel we should get Daniel Johnson back? Was just looking at an article and he seems to be doing extremely well! Was probably another mistake letting him go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Most of our youngsters over the years have turned out to be championship level anyway. Let's just recall em all. Be fine. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 We can still stay up guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 17, 2016 Share Posted February 17, 2016 Great post by Richard. Sums it all up. What has impressed me is a lot of neutral fans with no axe to grind have basically said to me 'shame about Villa, they are a big club and should not be in the mess they are'. I think a lot of people are finding out how rotten to the core Villa are now, and unless major changes occur nothing will change. We need another 68 moment to flush it all out. But it is a lot harder in 2016 than 1968 to get rid of the owner and turn a ailing club around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, Richard said: 1) I think the currentl corporate strategy is cut it all back and rebuild once we have hit the lowest point and we are not at the lowest point yet 2) Arrogant **** and those he employs in his likeness cannot see or accept they are wrong. They believe they know what is right and will keep on repeating the same mistakes expecting a different result. 100% agree with your post Richard But these 2 points I fear the most I walked with my older brother from the top of Aldridge Road to VP every 2nd week to see a 3rd Div AV I've seen us against Pele, George Best & Bobby Charlton. I've wagged school to see LC SF replays Followed us through Europe Been to Wembley I've seen the bottom (div3) and I seen the very top (div1 champs & Champs of Europe). But this is the lowest feeling of "no hope for the future" I have ever seen. It simply hurts. I work all over Europe and all the football talk is about, Guadiola, Messi, Ronaldo, RM, Barca, Bayern, PSG, ManU/C, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool. It's sickening to know that we were once there too Edited February 18, 2016 by Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted February 18, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted February 18, 2016 On 17 February 2016 at 17:21, Richard said: I try and convince myself i dont care anymore. I don't go to matches as frankly I have other things to do. I know thats an excuse and if I wanted to go I would but the last few times I went I came out saying to myself "was that worth it? what the **** was that about". To be brutally honest I have seen more matches in corporate for Villa in the last few seasons than paying for them, I'm a shit fan I get it. But I try and convince myself i dont care and it works to a degree. Then I dwell on AVFC..... If we care about this big old claret and blue lover that is Villa we all have to fight together, not each other. Great post Richard and I couldn't agree more. I have come to accept the idea of going down, but what happens then? Living down here in Bournemouth, the easiest thing would be to stick two fingers up and find something else to do. I have had so many long miserable journeys home from VP in the last 4/5 years that I have often questioned my sanity. BUT for now I refuse to be driven away from my club by these absolute ****** who are ruining it! Over the years I have been as guilty as others on forums for winding up and point scoring. There has always been a bit of division between various groups of Villa fans but I have never known it to be this bad or for so many to be so apathetic. There is very little passion or unity among the fans. I You are absolutely right that "as long as we fight each other we do not fight for Villa" but it is the way of football forums. I see little changing. Although I go to every home game and some away, I know 10 times more Villa fans that don't bother anymore than actually those who go to the games. Many of those who stay connected via VT will probably drift away when we are out of sight out of mind in the Championship. I don't blame them, our record over the last 5 seasons has been appalling, but for now I want to keep going with hope against hope that we will turn it round. If I walk away I doubt that I will go back and those in power will not give a s'hit. However everytime we play and I am not there, I know I will regret it! The future of Aston Villa is unbelievably bleak :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Villa are going to relegated this season. Villa are going to relegated this season, and Bournemouth will survive. Villa are going to relegated this season, and West Brom will not. Villa are going to playing in the Championship next season and **** Watford will be in the Premier League. Villa are going to be playing MK Dons, Brentford and Preston next year and Leicester City will be playing in the Champions League. I was utterly depressed thinking about this on the journey to work today. What the **** has been allowed to happen to Villa? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 You missed off - villa will be playing Walsall in a league match 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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