Zatman Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 1 hour ago, useless said: It's not over yet, beat Stoke and with eleven games left to play, it's on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 3 minutes ago, supernova26 said: I'm not preaching here, just speaking for me. I'll naturally keep hope whilst I think there is a possibility. Some would have given up already, I 100% get that. I've bet on sports and football for nearly a decade and seen some crazy, crazy things happen so this probably helps. Putting 10p on us staying up dosen't count. I think we'll struggle to reach 20 points after today, that has knocked the stuffing out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 It's knocked what little stuffing was left out of everyone at the club you could see it in the players. They just don't want to to step out to the pitch anymore. They would be thrilled if someone said the season could end now. How he motivates them , I don't think he is capable of it. They are a useless bunch of players lacking skill and motivation it is a toxic cocktail and to be honest they all want replacing in the summer . Unfortunately our owner will not provide the resources for that and we are going to struggle in the championship next season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Yep. That just about sums up my feelings. It isn't just that they seem to have given up. They wouldn't be good enough for this division even if they were trying. Poor, poor team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 29 minutes ago, Zatman said: 1 hour ago, useless said: It's not over yet, beat Stoke and with eleven games left to play, it's on. I know I get quite a lot of forecasts right, but also a few wrong. My words will only mean something when the players do the business on the pitch and I can look back and say 'I was right again', although of course I wouldn't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Mathematically, today doesn't make that much difference - although the damage the goal difference is a huge blow, and potentially raises the points target by one. The reality though, is that the players made clear today that they've stopped trying. They didn't run when tracking back. They bottled out of 50/50 challenges. They didn't shout at each other or try to motivate each other. Nobody took a player on or tried to make anything happen, apart from one Gil run at the start of the second half. They passed the blame, they jogged when they should have run and walked when they should have jogged, they bottled it all day. And in the end, one of them went on Twitter and posted a picture of his new car. They've accepted relegation, and since they're the only ones who could do anything about it, there will be no great escape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 10 hours ago, darrenm said: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29327/10167522/jamie-carragher-aston-villa-are-the-worst-premier-league-team-ive-seen Carragher sums it up pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 A lot of people in the industry seem to be revelling in our demise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 15 minutes ago, villa89 said: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29327/10167522/jamie-carragher-aston-villa-are-the-worst-premier-league-team-ive-seen Carragher sums it up pretty well. Yes he was very scathing of the team. He's right in that there isn't one player on our team than any other Premier League team will look at and want to sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 25 minutes ago, villa89 said: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29327/10167522/jamie-carragher-aston-villa-are-the-worst-premier-league-team-ive-seen Carragher sums it up pretty well. Sorry but I think he's full of shit. Obviously his criticisms of the team were justified but we're hardly the worst PL team (and he did say we were the worst). "I said at half-time they are one of the worst I've seen and was reliably informed Derby and Sunderland may be the worst," he added. "Forget about what points they are on, I think they are the worst I've seen. I can't remember those seasons.Bolded just about sums it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova26 Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) It was hyperbole and obviously revelling in our demise. He's not the most professional of pundits at the best of times. Classless clearing in the woods. Edited February 14, 2016 by supernova26 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 I thought it was bollocks too, and I guarantee there would be a few enquiries for our players. Ayew, Adama, Amavi. Possibly Veretout and Gana. Someone like Pulis might want to pick Richards up. Okore despite being dog shit today would probably have admirers in the bottom half. Grealish definitely. The rest would probably be seen as damaged goods though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Derby were worse than us, remember they lost 6-0 at home to us and there were hammered on a nearly weekly basis, ended up with a -69 goal difference. You'll do well however to find 4 worse teams in the premier league era than this one. Those joke QPR teams that finished bottom in last few seasons were better than this set of mugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 36 minutes ago, Richard said: A lot of people in the industry seem to be revelling in our demise I see it as the other way around, people are actually feeling sorry for us which is more humiliating 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Derby were different to us, they were a championship squad that got promoted and weren't ready / good enough but they tried Today was another example, like I said in the reaction thread, bacuna giving coutinho 10 yards and watching him as he crosses the ball in to a bloke unmarked 5 yards out, that's nothing to with ability or quality I've honestly seen nothing like us, it's worse than the mercenaries that dragged QPR down But then when those at the top don't give **** then why should anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Derby were different to us, they were a championship squad that got promoted and weren't ready / good enough but they tried but we are a Championship side that somehow stayed up for 3 seasons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Disagree, this squad is under performing criminally and has done for a long time, i don't buy in to this it's not their fault they aren't good enough sob story It's a far better squad than the one Derby had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 yeah but if you underperform so badly over a period of time you just realise they are shit. Westwood, Gil, Bunn, Clark, Richardson, Sinclair, Bacuna, Gabby and Lescott would struggle get into current Championship teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Can't it be a combination of both? Laziness/disinterest and a lack of ability? I don't see why they're mutually exclusive. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 19 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Can't it be a combination of both? Laziness/disinterest and a lack of ability? I don't see why they're mutually exclusive. i dont think your far off what it is, some of the players are not good enough in general and definite not good enough to phone in performances. If we were losing and players putting heart in like the start of season then you could understand but playing with no pride for 90 minutes at home is unacceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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