Gary Thomas Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Don't agree Veretout looks out of his depth at all. He should have come on yesterday, probably instead of Gestede for the second substitution. I say second because at the time of the first (65mins) we were having massive problems down the right side of the defence. Gil and Bacuna were getting exposed again and again - I've just watched it back. The solution to that was to bring Hutton on as right back and move Bacuna to the middle to play more defensive midfield role. Those two changes would have helped enormously. Edited September 14, 2015 by Gary Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I think we need to stop making up chants and start asking the question as to why a 9m player looks completely out of his depth.How much of a look have we actually seen? Give the lad a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I think we need to stop making up chants and start asking the question as to why a 9m player looks completely out of his depth.How much of a look have we actually seen? Give the lad a chance.I'm all for giving him a chance and understand some foreign players need this.My concern is, can we afford to be giving players chances? We finished 17th last year, one place above relegation. Is it wise to sign players you know will need time to adapt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Veretout has hardly played. Bit ridiculous to say he has looked out of his depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 My word VT is really a painful place after defeats. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Maked zero sense to bring on Ayew ahead of Veretout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 My word VT is really a painful place after defeats.You're saying this as if everybody is overreacting after one defeat.We lose ALL the time. Are we not allowed to moan about poor players and ridiculous manager decisions?Or do we have to listen to Westwood's passing accuracy stats again to make us all feel better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 He didn't even play yesterday ffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm all for giving him a chance and understand some foreign players need this.My concern is, can we afford to be giving players chances? We finished 17th last year, one place above relegation. Is it wise to sign players you know will need time to adapt?We have no choice. We signed 12 new players this summer (which we had to do) so it will take time for the team to settle down and play at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm all for giving him a chance and understand some foreign players need this.My concern is, can we afford to be giving players chances? We finished 17th last year, one place above relegation. Is it wise to sign players you know will need time to adapt?We have no choice. We signed 12 new players this summer (which we had to do) so it will take time for the team to settle down and play at its best. Fair enough.Problem is, they may be settled when we're in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I'm one of the first to moan about players, but come on, he didn't even come off the bench yesterday. Give him at least the courtesy of watching him play before you write him off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I think we need to stop making up chants and start asking the question as to why a 9m player looks completely out of his depth. I'll give him time, but it's time we don't have. Yeh.......your giving him time alright! Not got a Danny La Rue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Field Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) It is quite rare to see a team that finished near the relegation zone buy a player for £9m and not use him. Usually managers keep using "their" signings to prove that they are not money wasted. The same can be said about Ayew, makes me worry a bit about the two of them, but I will stay positive about them til at least Christmas. Even though I thought Veretout was embarrassing against Manchester Utd, him trying to kick januzaj and his blatant dive (I forget, was it Veretout that dived ?, or was it Ayew ? ) Edited September 15, 2015 by Chicken Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 It's why bringing him on for half an hour to get a taste of a match, and experience what a Premier League win feels like would have been a great part of his development. By the sounds of things he was influential against Notts County, not every game is against Utd and he will get there if he gets used right. I still get wound up about those **** substitutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 So why is this guy not playing?Another one that "isn't ready" is it?Spunked quite alot of money up the wall on players who are "not ready" haven't we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 15, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 15, 2015 Firstly I don't agree that he's not ready. But for the purpose of the post let's pretend that he's not and that a few of them are not. Is that a surprise to some people? Did anyone think to themselves that this side would be flying by mid - September? If they did then I think they were unrealistic. If however they thought the side would take time to gel and they're now in here complaining. Can I ask what has changed and why they're not giving them time (assuming that 5 league games is not 'time') 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think some people (myself included) are more concerned about Sherwood than the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supervillan78 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think every time he's played he's looked decent. I could have sh1t in my eyes but I haven't seen anything so far to suggest that he isn't good enough to make it, if anything it's the reverse IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think we need to stop making up chants and start asking the question as to why a 9m player looks completely out of his depth.How much of a look have we actually seen? Give the lad a chance.No villa89, it's clear that most of our signings this year are massive flops, and we should sell all of them, bar Amavi, for £1m each just to cut our losses and get them off the wage bill. Lambert out! Everyone out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 It is quite rare to see a team that finished near the relegation zone buy a player for £9m and not use him. Usually managers keep using "their" signings to prove that they are not money wasted. The same can be said about Ayew, makes me worry a bit about the two of them, but I will stay positive about them til at least Christmas. Even though I thought Veretout was embarrassing against Manchester Utd, him trying to kick januzaj and his blatant dive (I forget, was it Veretout that dived ?, or was it Ayew ? ) That was Ayew. Veretout, I am absolutely convinced will come good. Ayew, I think has the talent to do well; whether that happens is another matter altogether. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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