Wainy316 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Hope we knock them out of the Champions League in a few years. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2017 Why are people so surprised by the loan offer? He's clearly a player they think would add something to their squad. A loan gives them that addition without the risk of whatever they found in the medical to turn him into a flop of a signing. it's cheeky but if we want his wages off our books for a season then I can see us accepting it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 54 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: Offer them a stupid amount of money for their worst player. Then just before we sign the cheque, say "lol, no". I did that on FM once. What I like about this is that 'lol, no' obviously isn't an option on FM . . . so we've got an excellent insight into the sort of thing you say to yourself while playing computer games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NIVillan Posted July 11, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Why are people so surprised by the loan offer? He's clearly a player they think would add something to their squad. A loan gives them that addition without the risk of whatever they found in the medical to turn him into a flop of a signing. it's cheeky but if we want his wages off our books for a season then I can see us accepting it. Loan for this season forced to buy at end of season is only loan I would give, 3 million to loan plus original fee agreed to buy. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: What I like about this is that 'lol, no' obviously isn't an option on FM . . . so we've got an excellent insight into the sort of thing you say to yourself while playing computer games. I'm sure there's a mod somewhere allowing you to say "lol, no", "gwanoffbeanazz" or any similar term of choice when tactfully declining an offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 11, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, NIVillan said: Loan for this season forced to buy at end of season is only loan I would give, 3 million to loan plus original fee agreed to buy. Yep agreed. While you could understand their initial trepidation, it means everyone gets what they want and they limit their risk if the worst happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 11, 2017 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2017 Would rather see him playing for Villa this season and proving that Sev are a bunch of rocket polishers than loan him to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 18 minutes ago, striker said: Would rather see him playing for Villa this season and proving that Sev are a bunch of rocket polishers than loan him to them. He didn't do enough to get in the villa team last season as a regular starter - take a smaller offer if we get one and get rid. Nowhere near the player he was before his injury - same can be said for gary Gardner - 2 players who had great potential but horrific injuries have left both a shadow of what they once were . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 55 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Why are people so surprised by the loan offer? He's clearly a player they think would add something to their squad. A loan gives them that addition without the risk of whatever they found in the medical to turn him into a flop of a signing. it's cheeky but if we want his wages off our books for a season then I can see us accepting it. It is beyond cheeky. If they think he would add something to their squad they should have gone ahead with the deal. To have pulled out of it and then said they were willing to take him off our hands but only on loan smacks of them wanting their cake and to eat it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 1 minute ago, John said: It is beyond cheeky. If they think he would add something to their squad they should have gone ahead with the deal. To have pulled out of it and then said they were willing to take him off our hands but only on loan smacks of them wanting their cake and to eat it. Agreed, the time for loaning players out should be gone - we need to offload some and do so for hard cash - no more loans . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2017 41 minutes ago, John said: It is beyond cheeky. If they think he would add something to their squad they should have gone ahead with the deal. To have pulled out of it and then said they were willing to take him off our hands but only on loan smacks of them wanting their cake and to eat it. Why shouldn't they? We don't have to accept it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, Stevo985 said: Why shouldn't they? We don't have to accept it. But in what world would they think they we WOULD accept it? We're clearly looking to sell him, not loan, have gone through the whole process of accepting an offer, letting him leave pre-season training to go to their medical, announcing on official channels that it's 'all but done', and then having them report (supposedly wrongly) that he failed the medical. They're well within their rights to launch a loan offer, in the same way that we're within our rights to offer £500k to Everton for Lukaku. But both scenarios would be surprising. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted July 11, 2017 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2017 If Tony is right and the medical was good, then we should sue the words removed for slander. Compromising a player's value and future earnings by falsely claiming he has failed a medical and is therefore damaged goods, should have a quanitifiable price put on it. Trying to manipulate a situation to your advantage is one thing. Doing it by jeopardising a career in order to save your (broke ass) self a few sheckles should come with a punishment. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Are Sevilla taking the piss, I'm furious We should blacklist this club and do no future business with them for any player They have handled this deal with such disrespect and utter contempt If they want Amavi their chairman can speak to Dr Tony his number is 0121 **** do one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Why shouldn't they? We don't have to accept it. Ita not really the point though is it. They have come up with downright lies which know effects our club as now clubs will think he has injury problems meaning less money. Its absolutely disgraceful behaviour from them Edited July 11, 2017 by Demitri_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Do we know that they are lying? Or are we taking Tony's word for it? Tony has an interest in claiming that Amavi has no issues - it helps Amavi to retain value to other potential buyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 11, 2017 Moderator Share Posted July 11, 2017 Just now, PatrickCousens said: Do we know that they are lying? Or are we taking Tony's word for it? Tony has an interest in claiming that Amavi has no issues - it helps Amavi to retain value to other potential buyers. Which is why I chose my first word carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 This is all very odd. If they didn't want to sign him in the first place why would a fee get accepted and a medical conducted? The fact that they still want him suggests something was discovered in the medical which has put them off parting with 8M for him and taking a big chance of ending up with a crocked player. Otherwise it all makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11, 2017 47 minutes ago, Rob182 said: But in what world would they think they we WOULD accept it? Maybe in a world where we're looking to get wages off the books to comply with FFP, and we're worried we won't be able to sell him now that he's failed a medical. I don't know if that's the case, but it's feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, PatrickCousens said: Do we know that they are lying? Or are we taking Tony's word for it? Tony has an interest in claiming that Amavi has no issues - it helps Amavi to retain value to other potential buyers. Why would tony say this? It doesn't benefit the club whatsoever Edited July 11, 2017 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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